Still Super Sloppy Steering

[Dougnsalem]

Panhards are for coil sprung suspensions, keeps the axle located where it should be. The geometry with leaf springs is all wrong for the application. All it woukd do is create bind. The leaf springs handle all the axle locating duties on these trucks.

DOH! Like how a Jeep has one.... Maybe I should sleep more on it.... Lol

 

[Craig 85]

Someone else mentioned the rear springs. It made me think, did you have a 4 wheel alignment? I've had a couple of Suburbans where the R/R spring had fatigued and caused it to crab walk when driving down the road.

 

[CSFJ]

Super Duty's have track bars though, leaf sprung ones.

I would not add one to this truck however. As I've said, I've had some rough squarebody's, and they were more or less ok. And I've had some like my CUCV, that looked good, low mileage, and all over the road lol.

I wonder why ferd thought they needed it.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I wonder why ferd thought they needed it.

I took one off mine and it wandered all over the road and had wicked bump steer, put it back on lol.

Took them off my YJ and it just rode better lol.

 

[CSFJ]

I took one off mine and it wandered all over the road and had wicked bump steer, put it back on lol.

Took them off my YJ and it just rode better lol.

Leave it to ford to screw up leaf springs. At least they circled the problem, lol.

 

[Jon Karnes]

The Offroad Designs brace is pretty good, there's like a billion out there, I just stick with what I know lol. My CUCV has a ORD brace on it.

And those bolts were finger tight lol.

Funny you mention them. I talked to Steve on Tuesday. Once I get the play issue resolved, I’m gonna put their crossover steer system on it. This summer I’m gonna switch out to their suspension as well. Haven’t made up my mind if I’m gonna just do the straight replace with their custom leafs and shocks or go all it with the four Link coil over conversion.

I really hope the column is the fix, if not, at least it will be eliminated as a possibility.

 

[Jon Karnes]

Did have a four wheel alignment. The rear end was rebuilt the same way the front was as well.

 

[shiftpro]

Did have a four wheel alignment. The rear end was rebuilt the same way the front was as well.

Slightly off topic here Jon, your other post where you show us pics of the new Burb... is that your shop it's parked in front of? I'm smitten with
(clean) shops as much a squarebody chevs..

 

[Honky Kong jr]

I wonder why ferd thought they needed it.

Because they’re ford and they figured they better put something extra there to keep the axle under the truck when the spring hangers break. It’s all in the name of public safety. Now I guess they are getting sued for the same thing VW did with the diesels. Lol

 

[Jon Karnes]

Slightly off topic here Jon, your other post where you show us pics of the new Burb... is that your shop it's parked in front of? I'm smitten with
(clean) shops as much a squarebody chevs..

Not a shop. That’s the garage where I park the Shelby. It’s kind of a mess right now.

 

[twinturbo427]

Sorry, late getting back to the party.

I only mentioned the column because everything else had been covered.

The tilt columns have a universal joint that can go bad. Rare, but it happens. Usually impact related but sometimes just a failure.

Carry on...

 

[Jon Karnes]

Some had asked for specifics on the weight and the ratings. Had it weighed today. First the front axle is rated for 5500 pounds. The front leaf springs for 2600 a piece.

Total weight: 6620 lbs
Front axle weight: 3380 lbs
Rear axle weight: 3240 lbs

 

[Frankenchevy]

near 50/50 !! that's surprising

 

[Snoots]

Let me see if I have this right.

Your front springs are under-rated by 150 total. Imagine what the weight is on those springs when the front bounces?
Having weight in the rear doesn't remove this load.

Another question, regardless of a 4-wheel alignment; are the axles aligned with the frame?

I'm no high-and-mighty wizard here. These are just questions I would have to get answered if it were mine.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Let me see if I have this right.

Your front springs are under-rated by 150 total. Imagine what the weight is on those springs when the front bounces?
Having weight in the rear doesn't remove this load.

Another question, regardless of a 4-wheel alignment; are the axles aligned with the frame?

I'm no high-and-mighty wizard here. These are just questions I would have to get answered if it were mine.

2600 each, 5200 total rating on the springs.

5200 rating on the axle.

Front actual weight is 3800.

Weight, is not a factor.