Operating under temp.

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

77Chevy

Junior Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2011
Posts
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Ohio
First Name
77K10
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
k10
Engine Size
350
Hi all I having an issue with my 77 K10. The truck will warm up to 190° at when not moving. As I drive it cools down to 160°.

I've been fixing this truck up over the last couple months so here's what I've replaced.

New Radiator (Old one was leaking)
New T Stat- 195°, replaced again tonight, just to ensure that wasn't the issue.
New hoses
New Mechanical Temp gauge, wanted to ensure it wasn't a bad reading on the factory gauge.
New heater core (old one was leaking)
It had a flex fan on it, went to the bone yard last weekend and got a clutched fan from a 80's square body
Builds and holds pressure
Makes good heat when sitting and getting to 190°, makes poor heat when driving and cools down to 160°.

I'm in Ohio and it's about 20° outside tonight.

I even blocked half the radiator off with cardboard. Now when driving it runs about 170°

Any help with this issue would be appreciated, Thanks!
 

77Chevy

Junior Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2011
Posts
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Ohio
First Name
77K10
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
k10
Engine Size
350
Also I should add, I installed a new timing chain, plugs and wires.

I just double checked the timing and firing order. No issues there. At the moment the truck is running great and has no issues other than not holding temp driving.

Thanks!
 

RecklessWOT

Full Access Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2015
Posts
2,556
Reaction score
4,764
Location
New Hampshire
First Name
Kevin
Truck Year
1987
Truck Model
V10 Suburban Silverado
Engine Size
350 TBI
You said you installed a new radiator which is almost definitely aluminum (aluminum exchanges heat better than brass/copper), and you also said it's about 20 degrees out, and the "problem" only happens when driving. Pretty sure there's your answer. You have cold air flowing through a nice new radiator, and well, it's bringing down the temperature of your coolant. You even said it cools less when you block off part of the radiator, so you solved the mystery on your own!

Obviously timing and firing order would have nothing to do with your cooling system. Dude, it's cold out. It's gonna make your engine cooler too. Good thing it's not overheating. Don't worry about it, your truck is doing what its supposed to be doing. If you want it to run hotter, block off more of the radiator
 

Octane

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2019
Posts
2,040
Reaction score
3,634
Location
Atlanta
First Name
Eddie
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
K10
Engine Size
350
My 77 k10 calls for 180° therm. And at 20° mine runs cooler like that.But my heater works fine enough
 

fast68chevy

I am the original fast68chevy
Joined
Oct 17, 2020
Posts
172
Reaction score
92
Location
LINCOLN IL
First Name
RANDY
Truck Year
1975
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
350
either guage is innacurate or thermostat is opening for too long or too far, (try another one, especially if its a cheapo crap one?) or that radiator really cools extra well. the thermostat is a 190 one right? is the water pump stock flowor a high volume? if its a HV one thenyou may want to go to a stock one with that alum radiator. other than this i have no idea.

good to get rid of the flex fan.. those things are useless and dangerous. clutch fans are the best.
 

77Chevy

Junior Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2011
Posts
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Ohio
First Name
77K10
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
k10
Engine Size
350
Yes it is a 195 T-Stat, and a normal flow water pump. The only thing I found to be odd was when I ordered the rad. I ordered one Without AC; 28 1/4 inch x 19 inch Core. When I went to install it, it was too large. Ended up getting a 28 1/4 inch x 17 inch Core; With AC. That seemed to be an exact fit. Maybe the wrong one? I don't have A/C.
 
Last edited:

Green79Scottsdale

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2010
Posts
2,834
Reaction score
7,487
Location
G.R. - MI
First Name
Bob
Truck Year
1979
Truck Model
K20
Engine Size
400
I don't have much to add other than my 79 runs really cold, like it rarely comes off of the "C" mark, and my truck kicks out the heat like you wouldn't believe. Maybe check that everything is proper after the heater core replacement?
 

Rusty Nail

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Posts
10,041
Reaction score
10,137
Location
the other side of the internet
First Name
Rusty
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
350sbc
Maybe 195° is insufficient in your neck of the woods. They make a 210° or similar temp thermostat..
 

77Chevy

Junior Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2011
Posts
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Ohio
First Name
77K10
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
k10
Engine Size
350
I found a 210°, I'm gonna give that a try here soon. Right now it is about 15° outside. I have the radiator almost completely block off with cardboard. Sitting at an idle it'll get to 195°. Driving down the road it'll drop to about 185°. Which I'm happy with. Still shouldn't be required to block the rad off that much, I wouldn't think.
 

Rusty Nail

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Posts
10,041
Reaction score
10,137
Location
the other side of the internet
First Name
Rusty
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
350sbc
I agree, it strikes me as unusual BUT! that IS awfully cold. There's no harm found in running a 210, heck, it might run better.
 

Green79Scottsdale

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2010
Posts
2,834
Reaction score
7,487
Location
G.R. - MI
First Name
Bob
Truck Year
1979
Truck Model
K20
Engine Size
400
Running a 210* thermostat will allow your oil to get a smidge warmer and evaporate any water moisture in it. As long as you have the right mix of coolant, 210 is fine.
 

Rusty Nail

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Posts
10,041
Reaction score
10,137
Location
the other side of the internet
First Name
Rusty
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
350sbc
I think a Tuned Port Injection thermostat is factory 210°.

Where'd that dead horse run off to?

:beatdeadhorse5:
 

Dale A

Junior Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2020
Posts
26
Reaction score
16
Location
Bremerton Wa
First Name
Dale
Truck Year
1991
Truck Model
R 3500
Engine Size
454
before changing thermostats, block off the entire radiator. I lived in Alaska for 8 years and half of that time was in Keni and Nome. We always shoved a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator for 100% blockage for winter driving.
 

Curt

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2017
Posts
676
Reaction score
1,142
Location
Loco Hills
First Name
Curt
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
K-30
Engine Size
383
When you have the coolant drained again,you could check your temp sending unit.I’m sure it’s ok...check it anyway.I’ve never keep up with original gauges,but my temp unit is plumbed into the head.Not sure if placement has much to do with it
 

Forum statistics

Threads
44,401
Posts
956,720
Members
36,711
Latest member
MTsquare
Top