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Running a 1977 C15 stock 350, 4 barrel quadrajet and having issues with heat soak. Considering a carb spacer, wondering if that’s an option and if so what recommendations anybody has. Thanks.
 

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I also like the thick gaskets. Never had a problem from them.
 

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Any recommendations on brand and type. If I read things right, there are a lot of different materials they’re made with.
 

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Any recommendations on brand and type. If I read things right, there are a lot of different materials they’re made with.

Just the stock type thick one.

 

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Just get the stock mounting gasket,Look it up in a parts catalog,they aren't all open center as @bucket pictured but they should all be thick and act as an insulator. The difference between an open center and a 4 hole is the open center will act like an open plenum on a car designed for a 4 hole.
 

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Just get the stock mounting gasket,Look it up in a parts catalog,they aren't all open center as @bucket pictured but they should all be thick and act as an insulator. The difference between an open center and a 4 hole is the open center will act like an open plenum on a car designed for a 4 hole.

Yes, there are 4-hole versions that were used by GM as well. The only reason I posted the open plenum version is because that's what Autozone showed as correct for a '77 when I looked it up.
 

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Yes, there are 4-hole versions that were used by GM as well. The only reason I posted the open plenum version is because that's what Autozone showed as correct for a '77 when I looked it up.
I was just stating for GP there were both to the OP,you went the extra mile and looked it up by application. Thanks,Merry Christmas
 
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Hot soak issues have been around since the EPA started messing with fuel.

My SB's do start a bit hard after hot soak. Not horrible but noticeable. To help I buy highest octane E free available. That's lower than regular was when these trucks were new. One doesn't have a cat so I add a little AV gas [1 or 2 gallons] to a tank during the hottest part of summer. That does help and exhaust smells nice.
 

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If you want more than just the thick gasket, look for a q-jet heat shield, GM pn 3969837.

(Quick pic from the net, as I’m not home at moment)

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I mentioned the final solution to the problem in a fuel pump posting! The ultimate problem is not the heat but the excessive PSI provided by ALL the aftermarket pumps. My solution is to get a Holly F/p that is able to be dissembled (I don't remember the mod #) and REDUCE the operating PSI by reducing the spring length to provide ~ 5 psi output. F/P mod # is listed in attachment!
 

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I don't really get how "heat soak"works. Those little vents and stuff in the bowl are actually kind of important
 

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Heat soak is what happens when your engine has run up to operating temperature ( hot ) and is then shut off. The cooling effects of the circulating coolant, air flow and fuel flow all stop, and the heat from the engines combustion looks to escape through radiation. This takes time, and the engine's external parts heat up as the heat is transferred outward. Aluminum is a great heat conductor ( as in an aftermarket intake manifold and your carb body ) and therefore heat is conducted up into the body of the carb. The Q jet has a small centrally located fuel bowl, all nicely insulated and surrounded by radiant heat. As the heat increases, the fuel in the bowl boils away. When you come to re-start, you have to crank the mechanical pump over ( if you don't have an aftermarket electric pump ) to get fuel back into the bowl and re-start.
Resin block insulators are good, as they have a higher insulation effect then just a gasket. They will also raise the carb by a corresponding amount, so check you will have enough hood clearance. A large single central hole will also act like fitting a tunnel ram ( ie more flow at high rpm ( 4,500 upwards ) and boggy at low "driving rpm ( 1,500 - 3000). An insulator with the 4 holes would help, however make sure they fit your secondaries ( ie spreadbore to match the carb, not squarebore ). You may need to re-jet also.
The fuel supply / return is also important. As mentioned check your fuel pressure, fitting an inline gauge next to the carb will help. Also consider both an electric pump ( eliminates cranking on re-start ), and a return valve that will manage and prevent any vapour lock when it is hot and left standing.
Experimentation is your friend, as everyone's set up and driving needs are different.
Please post any changes you make, and the resulting effect. Will be interesting to know.
I am planning to experiment with both the new Edelbrock AVS II, and a re-built thermoquad for both around town driveability and moderate performance.
Cheers - A.
 

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