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Anyone else not use the shims?
I used to but my starters never lasted long, stopped using them and my starter last longer, is quieter, and starts faster

You don't use them by default, only if you need to in order to get proper clearance between the starter gear and the flywheel.
 

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Anyone else not use the shims?
I used to but my starters never lasted long, stopped using them and my starter last longer, is quieter, and starts faster

No shims needed. Put it in, fired her up and no funny noises. The old one would start the truck but made a bad sound when engine started running. Now starts right up!
 

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I used them to get the clearance I needed
But I stopped because they kept getting chewed up
The teeth have no clearance between them but oh well lol
 

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The last starter I can remember installing was in my 1968 Power Wagon plow truck after I cleared 2 feet of snow from around it. Of course it was about 8:00 at night! Must have been 30 years ago!!
 

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Anyone else not use the shims?
I used to but my starters never lasted long, stopped using them and my starter last longer, is quieter, and starts faster

You only use the shims if you need to adjust the clearance. You want 1/8 inch between the flywheel and the shaft.
 

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I know what the shims are for, but the 1/8" I used to set it to chewed up the starters, so I slapped it on one day without them and not had a problem
 

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I know what the shims are for, but the 1/8" I used to set it to chewed up the starters, so I slapped it on one day without them and not had a problem

But what is your clearance with the current starter? Some starters just don't need shims. You might have also been getting crap starters.

Proper clearance is proper clearance. Too much will cause noise and kill starters, too little will cause noise and kill starters. Both can also hurt the flywheel. It's much more fact than it is opinion.
 

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I had to use shims when installing the last starter in my '77 but that's the only time I've ever had to use shims
 

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You only use the shims if you need to adjust the clearance. You want 1/8 inch between the flywheel and the shaft.

Bucket said shaft
 

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This weekend I finished up the wiring for the audio system that's going in the 87. I've got some buddies coming to visit in a few weeks to help me with the enclosures so the rest of the install will happen then
 

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Dropped in a new Optima Yellow Top I got a great deal on. Preparing for accessories and I like being able to use the radio with the truck off without running out of juice.

A little frame cleanup will be coming soon.
 

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