What have you done to your square lately??

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Nothing to my truck but helped my buddy put a fresh windshield in his ‘73. NEVER. AGAIN. 2 windshields, 6hrs and every ounce of patience we had later, it was finally in. That might very well be the hardest thing I’ve ever done
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I gotta ask, is that your shop? Looks like some sweet rides sitting in there!!!!

I am really digging your buddy's 73!!!! I just love that early looking grill that is sunk in further, it changes the look of the truck. I gotta get me one of them some year!
 

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We couldn’t get the damn thing to slide into the upper half of the gasket. Once we had the retired glass guy there to help (the big guy in the black shirt), it went alright but it sure did fight. It was tight as hell, the gasket was cold cuz the shop was old and it just did not want to cooperate. And we didn’t have rope either, so patience and those little plastic spoons and lots of slapping lol


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Ah yeah. I did my last one in the summer I think. I don't recall exactly. But it was sunny, I was outside and it wasn't cold, lol.
 

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Well, my oldest and I have been busy working on the engine for the square. No work on it yesterday as I helped my dad re-build his engine in his Cub Cadet 149.

I decided to take today off from working on it too, instead I got out my Grandmothers original 72 Cat Panther she bought new, and hooked up my dads & his 2 brothers toboggan that I now have. Took the kids out and had a blast. This is the twin babies (a little over 2 years old now) first toboggan ride!

There is a square in the picture though if that counts!!! :D


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I gotta ask, is that your shop? Looks like some sweet rides sitting in there!!!!

I am really digging your buddy's 73!!!! I just love that early looking grill that is sunk in further, it changes the look of the truck. I gotta get me one of them some year!
Shoooot I wish!! Nah, that’s one of the other guy’s shop. He does this stuff on the side, it’s kind of a side gig/hang out place


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Shoooot I wish!! Nah, that’s one of the other guy’s shop. He does this stuff on the side, it’s kind of a side gig/hang out place


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Just had to ask! I would LOVE to do something like that some year and have a shop like that for a side gig. Maybe once the kids are older.

I have been debating however of doing maybe a Flathead Speed Shop with my dad, but not sure what the market is. He is retired now, loves Flatheads and so do I. Both of our nicknames are "Fred" because of our last name. So I thought it would be cool to have a business called "Flathead Fred's Speed Shop" and do something like that with my dad.

Probably just another pipe dream, but that is where cool things start right!!
 

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Just had to ask! I would LOVE to do something like that some year and have a shop like that for a side gig. Maybe once the kids are older.

I have been debating however of doing maybe a Flathead Speed Shop with my dad, but not sure what the market is. He is retired now, loves Flatheads and so do I. Both of our nicknames are "Fred" because of our last name. So I thought it would be cool to have a business called "Flathead Fred's Speed Shop" and do something like that with my dad.

Probably just another pipe dream, but that is where cool things start right!!
That’d be cool as hell! I’m the same way, would love to be able to do that someday too.

Oh and speaking of flatheads, check out his tractor...
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That’d be cool as hell! I’m the same way, would love to be able to do that someday too.

Oh and speaking of flatheads, check out his tractor...
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No way!! Is that an 8N or 9N? There was a couple years they put the Flathead V8's in them. Minus the supercharger of course :cool:
 

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No way!! Is that an 8N or 9N? There was a couple years they put the Flathead V8's in them. Minus the supercharger of course :cool:
I believe it’s an 8N but I’m not 100% sure on that. So freakin cool


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Ok, so idk where i last left off, seeing as activity here from me isnt as much as it once was.

Basically, my transmission lost reverse, the whining i was hearing originally was pinion bearings from my girl falling off the lift. We've heard that story a hundo times. Old ****.

I popped my cover to check my gears out all to learn the side gears and spider gears of the original G80 unit had excessive slop. I welded those together temporarily, ordered a cool new Yukon Duragrip Posi.

Brought thr truck to a buddies house after the yukon came, took my axle apart to install it, learned the yukon/eaton/auburn etc carrier journal bearings are bigger than stock 8.5/8.6 journals.

While i was at it, i inspected pinion bearings to learn the source the whine, somehow or another, after that fateful fall, the inner pinion bearing got racked really hard and stayed there, thus causing the inner cone bearing to get jammed into its race, causing that god awful whining. For the time being, i knocked that **** out, installed the original stock bearings in. Put my welded carrier back in until i had the correct bearings.

Problemo solved for the time being, still leaving me with a welded rear, and no reverse, but no whine.


K. Fastforward to this past weekend, i bring her back with correct bearings in hand.

I do rear end first, meaning, setting up my new yukon with my fresh 4.10s i installed 2 months or so ago. Replaced pinion bearings also. Set preload at like, 18 in/lbs, idr

Done, and done.

I got .007 backlash. ez.


Buttoned that up, pulled my trans.
Pop the pan, and to my horror, i find chunks of clutch in it . Eeeeek. Thats horrible breh.
I assume originally i lost reverse due to a failed input seal on the pump stator.

I go ahead and give her a good teardown (again), i inspect 2, 3, and 4 clutches, no problemo.

So.... i had to go even further... reach the bottom of the trans to find clutches and steel packs for low/rev that were warped, and in some cases fricition welded together.

The problem?

The VB gaskets were for a 82-86 non Aux VB 700r4.
The low reverse circuit, which is fed by the aux vb was completely blocked off. noice!

Just another L, amirite? Thx for that whoever you are.

So, i called her quits for the night.

Visit my local trans store for more red eagle low/rev clutches, and kolen steels and the CORRECT vb gaskets for a 87+ aux vb 700r4.

No prob.

I flush everything from the trans and TC, replace input drum seals, stator seals. Install my new low/rev clutches, air check my apply pistons. All is right in the world.

Put it back together, and at the end, i learned i lost a 1/4" check ball... eh.... i didn't install 1 too many... i just lost the damn thing because i had them accounted for upon teardown, so idk where it went. Anywho. I finish install, leave aux vb off, go ahead and install trans. Blah blah blah.

Drive BACK to my house from my buddies in the driving rain and lightning, grab a checkball from my trans parts collection, come back to buddies shop. Install aux vb, aux vb feed line, filter, then pan.

Fill her up, fire her up, i wet all my clutches by cycling shifter.....all gears are stout as can be... reverse makes the ass squat. Yayyyy.

I drove home that night on a yukon, and a tranny thats back to smackin gears like a MF, WITH reverse.
Win, win, win, win, win.


Then over the course of this week, MORE problems arose lol.

Started out with headlight/door buzzer staying on when i turned headlights on, then hard starting, then gauges failed, and ended in me needing a jump one night at a buddies house, and on the drive home, truck running like ass, and wouldnt crank back up when i parked it. This was over a perod of a couple days.

Thanks for that suburban.


Replaced alt with a delco. Warrantied battery out, still no gauges. Bleh.

Checked the gage/idle fuse. Found it was blown. Fixed.

And thus, where we lie now? Back to square one, where i was 2 months ago.

Chasing the vacuum leak ghost, and pulling ECM data to correct my gas mileage, and power issues.

I will get back to that soon.


All in all, my sanity really suffered.

Where we lie now ? A good charging system, a good rear end on 4.10s and yukon, and a stout trans.


The lesson learned?

1. Dont let your truck fall off the lift after installing new gears.
2. Dont let someone else unless you trust them build your transmission.



From here, on a sunny day, i will pull my intake as im left with no other option than to be suspicious of a possible ex leak under the intake. (She sat for 10 years before i got my hands on it)

While im at it, bore my intake for the 46mm tbi i machined, reseal it all, setup the 46mm tbi, and get the true potential my screaming eagle sbc has.


To be continued........
 

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Pic time!

1. My yukon
2 and 3. Where the aux vb feed line was blocked off
4. Burnt low/rev clutches
5. Warped clutches

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1 and 2. My young apprentice mechanic in the making (bro in law)

3. Posi action!

I let the boy do alot of the work.
He got to learn about setting a pinion with preload, and how to set backlash in a 8.5" rear end.

Also got to see tbe inner workings of a trans again. (Hes been with me almost every time i work on the truck)

Hes all about some squarebodies.
Figured if i got him hooked on the gas guzzling hussies, he wouldnt have the paper to fuel a drug addicition, he'd be throwing his wallet at the parts man every other week. And indeed, he loves them!
Winner!!!!

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1 and 2. My young apprentice mechanic in the making (bro in law)

3. Posi action!

I let the boy do alot of the work.
He got to learn about setting a pinion with preload, and how to set backlash in a 8.5" rear end.

Also got to see tbe inner workings of a trans again. (Hes been with me almost every time i work on the truck)

Hes all about some squarebodies.
Figured if i got him hooked on the gas guzzling hussies, he wouldnt have the paper to fuel a drug addicition, he'd be throwing his wallet at the parts man every other week. And indeed, he loves them!
Winner!!!!

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Nice... slow and steady forward progress!
 

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Yep, that’s Rocky. Dude’s cool as hell. He’s a firefighter here. That truck is real cool, AC/radio delete and he’s put in a HOT 350/700R4/3.73 combo with some longtubes and black widow mufflers, she’s rowdy lol

We will certainly be paying a glass guy next time lol. Luckily one of our buddy’s dads (the guy in black next to Rocky) is a retired glass guy. He came to help with the second one

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I need to get down to Hoschton, sometime LOL. I kinda know my way around down there since I was on the crew that built and maintained Reunion golf club. That area, much like Buford and *******, has pretty much exploded in growth over the last 20 or so years.
 

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