Tire/wheel recommendations

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Racer 238

Junior Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2025
Posts
3
Reaction score
1
Location
idaho
First Name
Ben
Truck Year
1978
Truck Model
1500
Engine Size
400
1978 GMC K15 just received a 4” rough county lift and it’s time for tires and wheels. Stock suspension except for the 4” sitting on 255/85 R16’s, wheels are 16x7. I like to hear what your recommendations are to replace the pizza cutters without rubbing. Seems like most run at least a 4” backspace on wheels. Really thinking of putting polished slots on her just can’t decide on size. Thanks!
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4993.png
    IMG_4993.png
    651.4 KB · Views: 16
Last edited:

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,366
Reaction score
31,093
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
How wide or "meaty" of a stance do you want? The wider the rim, the less diameter you will have clearance for when turning.

I believe we have a lifted truck picture thread around here somewhere, to give you some ideas.
 

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,366
Reaction score
31,093
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
Here ya go, there's a bit to look through.

 

TotalyHucked

Full Access Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2020
Posts
4,266
Reaction score
13,993
Location
Auburn, Georgia
First Name
Zach
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
Sierra 1500
Engine Size
5.3
Couldn't tell ya specs cuz I haven't messed in the 4x4 square world yet but some 15x8 or 15x10 slots and 35s would look killer on there
 

Grit dog

Full Access Member
Joined
May 18, 2020
Posts
7,506
Reaction score
13,401
Location
Auburn, Washington
First Name
Todd
Truck Year
1986, 1977
Truck Model
K20, C10
Engine Size
454, 350
How wide or "meaty" of a stance do you want? The wider the rim, the less diameter you will have clearance for when turning.

I believe we have a lifted truck picture thread around here somewhere, to give you some ideas.
Rim width is a secondary part of the equation though, depending on wheel offset and of course tire size.
4” lift half ton is perfect for 33s with 0 offset. Could go a little more neg backspacing and still work on the street.
New springs and depending what brand and type and weight of front end will make some difference. IE 4” new rough country with a small block will sit higher than 4” custom or soft ride springs and a big block.
….in general. YMMV.

But that looks really tall if those are 255-85s. Is the pic distorted?
 

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,366
Reaction score
31,093
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
Rim width is a secondary part of the equation though, depending on wheel offset and of course tire size.
4” lift half ton is perfect for 33s with 0 offset. Could go a little more neg backspacing and still work on the street.
New springs and depending what brand and type and weight of front end will make some difference. IE 4” new rough country with a small block will sit higher than 4” custom or soft ride springs and a big block.
….in general. YMMV.

But that looks really tall if those are 255-85s. Is the pic distorted?

I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again many times in the future. "Offset" is a byproduct of backspacing and a nearly useless term. Especially in this case, where most every 4x4 squarebody is going to need about a 4" backspacing, +/- 1/4" or so. So when shopping for wheels it's way easier to just go off of backspacing than it is offset... unless you actually like doing math for the fun of it.

About the only useful time to use the term "offset" is when doing generalized comparisons between different wheel styles. Like: "Modern cars tend to run wheels with much more positive offset than older cars." Otherwise, it just makes things more complicated than they need to be.
 

Racer 238

Junior Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2025
Posts
3
Reaction score
1
Location
idaho
First Name
Ben
Truck Year
1978
Truck Model
1500
Engine Size
400
Rim width is a secondary part of the equation though, depending on wheel offset and of course tire size.
4” lift half ton is perfect for 33s with 0 offset. Could go a little more neg backspacing and still work on the street.
New springs and depending what brand and type and weight of front end will make some difference. IE 4” new rough country with a small block will sit higher than 4” custom or soft ride springs and a big block.
….in general. YMMV.

But that looks really tall if those are 255-85s. Is the pic distorted?
Yes that pic was pretty bad. I’m leaning towards 16” x 10” on around 315/75r 16’s. That would add 2.4” of width, fill it out a bit.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_5016.jpeg
    IMG_5016.jpeg
    188.3 KB · Views: 6

Racer 238

Junior Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2025
Posts
3
Reaction score
1
Location
idaho
First Name
Ben
Truck Year
1978
Truck Model
1500
Engine Size
400
How wide or "meaty" of a stance do you want? The wider the rim, the less diameter you will have clearance for when turning.

I believe we have a lifted truck picture thread around here somewhere, to give you some ideas.
Hoping to go with 10” wide wheels just to fill it out a bit. Thinking maybe 315/75 16’s. Having a hard time finding mags in 16” x 10”. Looks like most companies have discontinued making the old slots. I added a 1.5” spacer to the rear to line the rear with the front today. Looks pretty good without that narrow rear stance.
 

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,366
Reaction score
31,093
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
Hoping to go with 10” wide wheels just to fill it out a bit. Thinking maybe 315/75 16’s. Having a hard time finding mags in 16” x 10”. Looks like most companies have discontinued making the old slots. I added a 1.5” spacer to the rear to line the rear with the front today. Looks pretty good without that narrow rear stance.

So those stiff Rough Country springs will help with your goals. But a 35" on a 10 inch wide wheel with only a 4 inch lift is a tall order. A small block and street use might let you get away with little or no trimming. But if you have a big block or you do truck things with your truck, you're going to end up trimming your fenders.

Iirc, M/T has a variation of the slotted mag in a 17x9 and US Mags has one in a 17x10. I know they are offered in 8-lug, I'm assuming they are offered in 6-lug too.
 

Grit dog

Full Access Member
Joined
May 18, 2020
Posts
7,506
Reaction score
13,401
Location
Auburn, Washington
First Name
Todd
Truck Year
1986, 1977
Truck Model
K20, C10
Engine Size
454, 350
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again many times in the future. "Offset" is a byproduct of backspacing and a nearly useless term. Especially in this case, where most every 4x4 squarebody is going to need about a 4" backspacing, +/- 1/4" or so. So when shopping for wheels it's way easier to just go off of backspacing than it is offset... unless you actually like doing math for the fun of it.

About the only useful time to use the term "offset" is when doing generalized comparisons between different wheel styles. Like: "Modern cars tend to run wheels with much more positive offset than older cars." Otherwise, it just makes things more complicated than they need to be.
Not sure what you’re getting at here. As the terms are essentially interchangeable. Albeit one has to understand the difference in the two terms. (Which you do, of course) 0 offset on a 6” wide wheel will put the tire in the same spot as 0 offset on a 12” wide wheel. However that’s a big generalization to say 4” BS is what’s needed because that’s a completely different setup if it’s a 6” rim with 4” bs vs a 12” rim with 4” bs.
IMO it’s just 2 different ways of saying the same thing but like I said earlier there’s 3 or I suppose 4 factors when determining fit. Tire height, tire width, rim width and “backspacing.”
Of course I just noticed I used the words rim and wheel interchangeably as well. Which also could be debated. Lol
 
Last edited:

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,366
Reaction score
31,093
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
Not sure what you’re getting at here. As the terms are essentially interchangeable. Albeit one has to understand the difference in the two terms. (Which you do, of course) 0 offset on a 6” wide wheel will put the tire in the same spot as 0 offset on a 12” wide wheel. However that’s a big generalization to say 4” BS is what’s needed because that’s a completely different setup if it’s a 6” rim with 4” bs vs a 12” rim with 4” bs.
IMO it’s just 2 different ways of saying the same thing but like I said earlier there’s 3 or I suppose 4 factors when determining fit. Tire height, tire width, rim width and “backspacing.”
Of course I just noticed I used the words rim and wheel interchangeably as well. Which also could be debated. Lol

My only point was that the term "offset" is just a waste of time when searching for wheels. Backspacing is what is important. Let's just say OP is looking at all sorts of wheels, 16x7 through 17x11. The amount of allowable backspacing is a set distance, you can only go so far. So if searching through all the various wheels available, do you want to do math for each wheel to figure out which offset may or may not fit, or do you just want to look at the backspacing spec?

As I said earlier, 4" +/- 1/4" is a pretty safe bet when giving advice on the internet. You can get away with a little bit more, depending on 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, wheel diameter and composition. So if someone really wants to stuff as much wheel and tire as they can under their truck, they need to get out and use a tape measure to see how much backspacing they can get away with.

Yes, backspacing and offset are basically the same thing. But, one requires math to know if it fits your needs and the other one does not.

Oh, and even the factory narrow (15x6, 16x6.5 and 16.5x6.75) steel wheels have around 3.75" backspacing or so.
 

Rustisbest

Full Access Member
Joined
Jul 20, 2021
Posts
273
Reaction score
785
Location
Tennessee
First Name
Matt
Truck Year
1979
Truck Model
C10
Engine Size
6.1762844 liters
Offset is usually described in metric too.
Guess we could describe a 17x8 wheel as 43.18cm x 20.32cm :rofl:
 

77Dmax

Full Access Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2024
Posts
121
Reaction score
238
Location
vt
First Name
Joe
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
c20
Engine Size
6.6
I have a set of 15x10 turbines kicking around that i would sell. Thats the proper vintage!
 

Forum statistics

Threads
45,051
Posts
974,316
Members
37,980
Latest member
Ed Ball
Top