Mini spool vs lunchbox locker

[HotRodPC]

Neener neener, mine's already 6-lug and wide enough to match the front

But is it a SB rear end or a GMT 400 Rear End? I hear if you get axles out of a GMT 400 4x4 and the backing plates for the brakes, then it's a swap. I've thought of selling this 10b Detroit Locker and seeing about going with the 14b 6 lug conversion and either a LockRight or NoSlip locking diff. That NoSlip seems pretty damn good. Skysurfer has one in his front diff and likes it.

 

[guitarfreak235]

oh well.... looks like im gonna have to shell over some mula for a new lunchbox!

 

[HotRodPC]

This is the cheapest place I know of for either of the Richmond Powertrax units. LockRight, or the Quieter Smoother NoSlip. Some good reading on this page too.

http://www.rocky-road.com/powertrax.html

 

[bucket]

But is it a SB rear end or a GMT 400 Rear End? I hear if you get axles out of a GMT 400 4x4 and the backing plates for the brakes, then it's a swap. I've thought of selling this 10b Detroit Locker and seeing about going with the 14b 6 lug conversion and either a LockRight or NoSlip locking diff. That NoSlip seems pretty damn good. Skysurfer has one in his front diff and likes it.

It will be an SB rear when I weld the perches back on and in the correct spot

 

[HotRodPC]

It will be an SB rear when I weld the perches back on and in the correct spot

Thought so.

 

[guitarfreak235]

This is the cheapest place I know of for either of the Richmond Powertrax units. LockRight, or the Quieter Smoother NoSlip. Some good reading on this page too.

http://www.rocky-road.com/powertrax.html

thanks that was helpful. now i want to put one of the no slips in the rear and either the lockright or no slip in the front.... i need a job lol

 

[HotRodPC]

thanks that was helpful. now i want to put one of the no slips in the rear and either the lockright or no slip in the front.... i need a job lol

You got that backwards. I'd for sure put the NoSlip in the front, the back won't matter as much so if you want to cheap out for the $130 difference go with the LockRight in the rear. You're not likely to hear all the noise in the rear over the exhaust, and I'd want the smoother operation in the front for sure with my steer wheels.

 

[guitarfreak235]

You got that backwards. I'd for sure put the NoSlip in the front, the back won't matter as much so if you want to cheap out for the $130 difference go with the LockRight in the rear. You're not likely to hear all the noise in the rear over the exhaust, and I'd want the smoother operation in the front for sure with my steer wheels.

well i wanted the no slip in the back for it to be quiet on road. but i thought they both allowed for wheel differentiation? the lockright said it has gears to allow differentiation while turning

 

[HotRodPC]

You are right on your thoughts, but my thinking also for the front, the Lock Right is going to be rougher kicking in and out. That's why it's so noisy. I'm afraid you'd be feeling that crunching and grinding in your steering. The no slip uses a clutch of sorts to smooth out the transition from lock and unlock in turns so you're not gonna feel it. JMO.

 

[guitarfreak235]

You are right on your thoughts, but my thinking also for the front, the Lock Right is going to be rougher kicking in and out. That's why it's so noisy. I'm afraid you'd be feeling that crunching and grinding in your steering. The no slip uses a clutch of sorts to smooth out the transition from lock and unlock in turns so you're not gonna feel it. JMO.

makes sense but ill probably just do one for now. would one in the front or back help more off road?

 

[HotRodPC]

Being a truck and light in the ass end, I believe the front will help much more than the rear. BUT, sometimes, with one in the rear, you'd rarely need 4x4. For me, I know when I'm going to need 4x4, and I think the best bang would be in the front for off road use. If bad weather was the purpose, I'd probably go with the rear and maybe not even have to engage 4x4. Answer to your question IMO is No Slip in the front first for off roading, then add your locker choice in the rear later when funds permit.

 

[crazy4offroad]

Front definitely! Nothing sux worse than to be stuck and see one front wheel firmly planted doing nothing and the other with no traction spinning away.

 

[HotRodPC]

Front definitely! Nothing sux worse than to be stuck and see one front wheel firmly planted doing nothing and the other with no traction spinning away.

Yep, and your front's usually get better traction because you have the weight of the motor directly over your axle to hold the tires firmly to the ground, and actually, it takes less energy to pull a vehicle which the front wheels do, than to push a vehicle which the rear wheels do, hence front wheel drive vehicles getting better mpg.

 

[crazy4offroad]

And if you break a rear driveshaft u-joint and have to drive out on the front axle you'll be much more likely to get home with the LSD than an open diff. Not to mention if you had a locker up front it would probably be engaged most of the trip making steering it a real bear.

 

[HotRodPC]

And if you break a rear driveshaft u-joint and have to drive out on the front axle you'll be much more likely to get home with the LSD than an open diff. Not to mention if you had a locker up front it would probably be engaged most of the trip making steering it a real bear.

That's all true, but the NoSlip is also a locker. It just a different mechanism design that allows smoother locking and unlocking without the ratcheting mechanism and harsh engage and disengagement. Skysurfer has the NoSlip in his front diff and is liking it.