Emissions question

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Grit dog

Full Access Member
Joined
May 18, 2020
Posts
7,284
Reaction score
12,924
Location
Auburn, Washington
First Name
Todd
Truck Year
1986, 1977
Truck Model
K20, C10
Engine Size
454, 350
I think here in WA state, the collectors plate is 20 or 25 years. There is supposed to be a limit on mileage as well, and my pickup isn’t supposed to haul anything in the bed. Ha, good luck enforcing any of that. I’ve broken every one of those rules.
It’s 30 years in WA. And it’s a permanent plate. $100 + some added fees.
There’s no mileage limit. There’s a small list of what it can and can’t be used for “technically”. But one of the uses is “special excursions”. So every trip is a special excursion. lol
I don’t see many/any on the highway during rush hour. Plenty of 30 + age vehicles on the road but when I see them they are typically sporting normal plates.
That said, yeah fyck em. If I get pulled over hauling a load to the dump in the 77, it’s a special excursion. lol.
RE Washington emissions and licensing. Don’t want to say it too loud, but I’m actually astounded that there’s NO emissions testing anywhere in state. They phased out the last of it around 10 years ago? And vehicle licensing is very fairly priced. Although they get a pile of money for “use tax” on used vehicles and toys (campers bikes boats etc) if one doesn’t know how to work that system. And it’s the same ~10% tax for new sales tax or used use tax based on book value if newer. However the brother in law deal can be used once per vehicle/toy. And they don’t question purchase price on older stuff. Not sure what the cutoff is. Haven’t found a rule per se. I think it’s subjective.
But any newer vehicle or toy, say <15ish years old, they’ve used book value on me regardless of the *wink purchase price on the bill of sale.
Anything old, the squares, ,late 90s early 00s vehicles, they’ve never questioned a low purchase price.
Learned real quick when we moved here in 2011 and they wanted over $4k to transfer our boat registration from CO to WA! Took 3 dmv trips to different places before I hooked one on it being a $500 dingy not a $40k ski boat.
I’ll say without the workarounds, I’d have donated probably another 20 grand to the State by now. For used stuff that was already taxed one or more times…somewhere.

So any of you Worshingtonians on here who are new to the state or unaware, please re-read what I posted. It’s easy to pay ALOT of money to the state that you can smartly forgo if you play your cards right.
Heck several years ago I went to register my new to me snow bike.
From the previous one I learned that the dmv didn’t know how to handle the registration on these. I’ll spare the long story but in WA motorcycle = titled vehicle on or off road. And snowmobile = no title just registration. And if you used a dirt bike or double dog bike summer on wheels and winter on a track you had to surrender the bike title in winter and register as a sled and re title in the summer and get a license plate or trail sticker. And repeat next winter. Wised up on the 2nd snobike. Took in the bill of sale only. Not the MSO for the bike (it was never titled). And some website pics of “Timbersleds” which was my brand of kit.
It was not in their system (of course) and I convinced the dmv dude and his supervisor and they called Olympia on the spot and got Timbersled added as a snowmobile mfg in their computer system! First I didn’t have to register based on the bike value. And if I actually used it on dirt or roads, I could title and tag the bike separately from the snow kit.
 
Last edited:

Grit dog

Full Access Member
Joined
May 18, 2020
Posts
7,284
Reaction score
12,924
Location
Auburn, Washington
First Name
Todd
Truck Year
1986, 1977
Truck Model
K20, C10
Engine Size
454, 350
Hope this wasn’t too off topic for emissions. Apologies if it is. Just trying to to help the Worshjngtonians here.
 

Rumbledawg

Full Access Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2021
Posts
280
Reaction score
1,055
Location
the back 40
First Name
Dan
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
K30 crewcab
Engine Size
454
I grew up in Gwinnett and never had much problem passing with all my hotrods. Even my '94 Mustang GT with too big a cam, longtubes and no cats, the guy thought the car was awesome so he just ran it on the dyno in 3rd to keep the revs up lol. All the other stuff, just had to make sure it'd pass the sniffer/plug in. They've never looked underneath anything, so cats didn't matter. Now I live in Barrow so I don't have to worry about emissions at all
my advice is prob what you don't want to hear, but my $0.02 on emissions.

don't even talk to me about emission testing...grrr
we used to have emission testing but they cancelled it in 2014-thank christ. for the super low miles i drive some of my trucks it was a total pia, as well as a $35 hit and didn't matter how many times you failed, you always had to cough up another 35 clams- no freebie re-testing.

like you i found a few ways to get around them. my old weekend toy, a '68 gm 910 custom cab had a hot little 383 stroker with dart heads, big cam, lots of carburation and would wilt flowers at 50 feet....not a hope in hell of passing the sniffer.
on older vehicles they would just stick a probe up your pipe(s) no visual inspection. so i bought a set of remflex aluminum header collector gaskets and would just loosen the bolts before going in. first time i went thru and the guy who gives you your readout commented that i must take dam good care of my truck cause he never seen a truck that old get 3 ZERO'S....you bet i take care of it, trying to stop a smile from cracking my face. i would then pull across the street reach under, retighten my collector bolts and carry on. worked like a charm. they never caught on in yrs of testing.
You must be registered for see images attach


first time i took my crewcab in, they put the truck on the dyno, put the truck in gear and dammed if it didn't just drive off the rollers and almost plug the car in front of my truck. mind ya, i had 42" swamps on it. so one of the nimrods working there gets the bright idea to chain the truck to the dyno.....what a cluster schmuck. as he starts to add rpms the friggin truck is bouncing off the rollers till he got the revs up, then it finally settled down and started walking back and forth hitting the stops on the end of the rollers, chewing the sidewalls of my 4 grand tires.
i came out of the room they make you wait in and the guy goes get back in there we're not done and i'm like no, you ARE done, get out of my truck. he says you will fail, no pass...like i care what you think after you just chewed my expensive tires.
buuut if you owned a truck, you could just pay $75 and up your gvw and now you never needed to be tested again as they only did cars and light duty trucks.
same with my K5, went to insure it and insurance lady gives me car plates. i'm like whaaat? see our gov says if it has back seats, it's a car. even though my blaze is sitting outside her office on 39's and don't look like any friggin car. i says what if i take the back seat out, she's like yup, then i can get truck plates. so i run home, yank the seat and go back down there and show her- yup, all good now, here's your truck plates. perfect, now i want to up the gvw, yay no more emission testing. went home and threw the back seat back in and called it a day
 

TotalyHucked

Full Access Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2020
Posts
3,967
Reaction score
12,969
Location
Auburn, Georgia
First Name
Zach
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
Sierra 1500
Engine Size
5.3
That's a good idea with the dumps underneath, especially if it's loud anyway lol.

That GVW thing shows right there how much a crock of **** emissions testing is anyway. Oh, you wanna get out of testing? Just pay a fee. So much for saving the planet
 

Rumbledawg

Full Access Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2021
Posts
280
Reaction score
1,055
Location
the back 40
First Name
Dan
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
K30 crewcab
Engine Size
454
That's a good idea with the dumps underneath, especially if it's loud anyway lol.

That GVW thing shows right there how much a crock of **** emissions testing is anyway. Oh, you wanna get out of testing? Just pay a fee. So much for saving the planet
Flowtech headers, Super 40's. ya know your loud when people passing you are holding their ears...
had my crewy since the '90's. when i bought it mileage was 91 000 miles. as of right now almost 30 yrs later it sits at 108 000 miles. thats approx 600 miles a year.....don't think i'm killing the planet with them miles....lol
 

TotalyHucked

Full Access Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2020
Posts
3,967
Reaction score
12,969
Location
Auburn, Georgia
First Name
Zach
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
Sierra 1500
Engine Size
5.3
Flowtech headers, Super 40's. ya know your loud when people passing you are holding their ears...
had my crewy since the '90's. when i bought it mileage was 91 000 miles. as of right now almost 30 yrs later it sits at 108 000 miles. thats approx 600 miles a year.....don't think i'm killing the planet with them miles....lol
Yeah my '85 will hurt my own ears if I'm on it hard next to a wall lol. High revving, cammed 5.3 with longtubes, X-pipe and Corsa mufflers.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
44,668
Posts
964,500
Members
37,280
Latest member
77bonanza
Top