Crate engine swap advise please?

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The wires are MSD Street Fire Wires Part# 5562

Helically wound conductor suppresses electro and radio noise
• Kevlar core combination for great strength and durability
• Heavy duty terminals for secure connection and silicone boots protect against high exhaust temps
• 8 mm silicone and synthetic jacket resists heat and abrasion
• 505 ohms per foot resistance for improved spark delivery and power

If I were you I would probably just look at getting a whole new distributor which comes with cap and rotor and coil.

Something like an MSD or Accel unit should be $200 or less then just pick up a set opf matching low resistance wires 8mm or better. 8 mm is sufficient though.

I see what I can find online and report back.
 

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I guess this is going off topic, and back to fixing what I've got. Should this be restarted as a new thread?
 

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I guess I'll go by the junk yard a pull a distributor. It'll be good practice. Mine is so close to firewall, I didn't think it would come out without pulling the engine forward. Maybe it will.

Oh ya it will just a be bit of a PITA lol

I would lean towards the new distributor for you just because it should eliminate any of the internal components giving you the issue. As well when you start running cams you need a good high power reliable ignition to make it come alive. The newer performance coils allow for quicker recharge between firings to ensure full power spark every time it fires. This is crucial when running a lopey cam as the window for good ignition becomes smaller and smaller. With out good high power ignition you get only partially ignited burns which results in bad performance, bad fuel economy and that left over fuel smell
 

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Also it seems to be beneficial to match the ignition module to the coil so when buying components for a distributor buy matched items. This is why a msd or accel dizzy makes sense for you and your issue
 

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If I were you I would probably just look at getting a whole new distributor which comes with cap and rotor and coil.

Something like an MSD or Accel unit should be $200 or less then just pick up a set opf matching low resistance wires 8mm or better. 8 mm is sufficient though.

I see what I can find online and report back.

F**k, really? All new? The cap, rotor, adjustable vac. can, and wires are all new.
 

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F**k, really? All new? The cap, rotor, adjustable vac. can, and wires are all new.

Well Im thinking it might be the Ignition Module giving you grief as well its a stock GM dizzy?

Like I say if you have a lopey cam you need good reliable and powerful ignition every time to make it come alive.
 

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Maybe then just find a matching Ignition module and high energy coil. to go in your current dizzy
 

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OK, I read back over the whole thing.

One big question mark is the cam. We don't know what it is. For getting off the post, you need torque down low. So one thing to think about is getting a cam kit -- cam, lifters, springs -- and going with either the 12-300-4 or the 12-230-2, for example. You can download Camquest software from Comp Cams and run the numbers on them. I have done this and have the setup numbers for the base 350 engine with 882 heads if you want to plug them in. Let me know. 12-300-4 gets you the most torque you can get with stock lift in that engine, but won't wind out as far on the top. 12-230-2 will get you the same torque, and wind out further on the top, but has more-that-stock lift, which has implications for cam and valvetrain longevity.

The carb shouldn't whistle. It's likely either the base gasket or the airhorn gasket. Check torque on mounting nuts and on the eight screws on the top of the Eddy to make sure they haven't loosened up. Replace the gaskets if the whistle hasn't gone away; they're cheap enough. Make sure the base gasket is a thick one -- the Edelbrock does not like to run hot.

What are you running for an air cleaner setup? Is your performance dependent on outside air temperature? That is, best at 80 degrees or so, and worse when colder or hotter?

Get the NGK or Ballenger AF/R meter, and have the local muffler/exhaust guy weld the bung for the sensor into the exhaust pipe somewhere close behind the header joint on the driver's side. Run the numbers and see what your mixture is doing.

The MSD wires are 505 ohms, the Taylors are 350. Just saying.

Switch to ACD R45TS or Autolite 24 at 0.045" gap. Again, cheap enough.

That's where I would start, anyway. Probably from the bottom and going up this list. Well under $1000.

And don't go and buy another carb. You're pissing your money away. The Eddy should be able to make it run fine. If it isn't, you have another problem, and a new carb won't fix that.
 

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Oh, and agreed with MO. Get a new stock HEI distributor, with standard curves. You got so much custom and mish-mosh of parts on that thing, no telling what is going on.

The stock HEI distributor is not a bad piece, actually. We were overjoyed when GM brought that thing out. Made life much simpler.
 

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OK, I read back over the whole thing.

One big question mark is the cam. We don't know what it is. For getting off the post, you need torque down low. So one thing to think about is getting a cam kit -- cam, lifters, springs -- and going with either the 12-300-4 or the 12-230-2, for example. You can download Camquest software from Comp Cams and run the numbers on them. I have done this and have the setup numbers for the base 350 engine with 882 heads if you want to plug them in. Let me know. 12-300-4 gets you the most torque you can get with stock lift in that engine, but won't wind out as far on the top. 12-230-2 will get you the same torque, and wind out further on the top, but has more-that-stock lift, which has implications for cam and valvetrain longevity.

The carb shouldn't whistle. It's likely either the base gasket or the airhorn gasket. Check torque on mounting nuts and on the eight screws on the top of the Eddy to make sure they haven't loosened up. Replace the gaskets if the whistle hasn't gone away; they're cheap enough. Make sure the base gasket is a thick one -- the Edelbrock does not like to run hot.

What are you running for an air cleaner setup? Is your performance dependent on outside air temperature? That is, best at 80 degrees or so, and worse when colder or hotter?

Get the NGK or Ballenger AF/R meter, and have the local muffler/exhaust guy weld the bung for the sensor into the exhaust pipe somewhere close behind the header joint on the driver's side. Run the numbers and see what your mixture is doing.

The MSD wires are 505 ohms, the Taylors are 350. Just saying.

Switch to ACD R45TS or Autolite 24 at 0.045" gap. Again, cheap enough.

That's where I would start, anyway. Probably from the bottom and going up this list. Well under $1000.

And don't go and buy another carb. You're pissing your money away. The Eddy should be able to make it run fine. If it isn't, you have another problem, and a new carb won't fix that.

Ya were on the same page lol that cam has already been recommended.

How much is that meter ? The same thing can be accomplished with out the meter just takes a lot longer, maybe.
 

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Oh, and agreed with MO. Get a new stock HEI distributor, with standard curves. You got so much custom and mish-mosh of parts on that thing, no telling what is going on.

The stock HEI distributor is not a bad piece, actually. We were overjoyed when GM brought that thing out. Made life much simpler.

Ya exactly! I would just like to see a performance high energy IM and coil in a new dizzy

Sell the old one! probably get $100 or more for it.
 

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I would like to get this thing running well with out swapping cams and then see how you like it? Then change cams if you don't. That way swapping to a new cam you wont have the same old problems again and you can have a real comparison when and if you do swap cams.
 

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Oh, and agreed with MO. Get a new stock HEI distributor, with standard curves. You got so much custom and mish-mosh of parts on that thing, no telling what is going on.

The stock HEI distributor is not a bad piece, actually. We were overjoyed when GM brought that thing out. Made life much simpler.

OK. Where do I get a new HEI? OEM?
 

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I haven't had a chance to drive the truck yet since I redid my governor but let me tell you this.. Rich is a smart guy and speaks truth as I put the 12-300-4 in my truck and for a 5,000lb truck its crazy how it moves along now.
 

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