US Mag wheels lug nut suggestions

[Chris64]

So I just got my new wheels which are the US Mag
17x10's

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lug nut:

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I did a test fit with just the rim before taking them down to get tires (BFG AT 35x12.5x17) added and they fit very similar to what the truck had (Weld 16.5x9.5) Similar offset. A tiny bit wider (5mm) but they only offer 1 size so that made my decision a lot easier.

The problem I had is my lug nuts are old and gross, but also I can't get a socket in the hole to tighten them. Any suggestions? I was thinking maybe the locking style to protect my investment a little.

Something like these - or is this cheap stuff that I'll end up regretting?

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[bucket]

So I just got my new wheels which are the US Mag
17x10's

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lug nut:

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I did a test fit with just the rim before taking them down to get tires (BFG AT 35x12.5x17) added and they fit very similar to what the truck had (Weld 16.5x9.5) Similar offset. A tiny bit wider (5mm) but they only offer 1 size so that made my decision a lot easier.

The problem I had is my lug nuts are old and gross, but also I can't get a socket in the hole to tighten them. Any suggestions? I was thinking maybe the locking style to protect my investment a little.

Something like these - or is this cheap stuff that I'll end up regretting?

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I've personally used those splined (actually not locking, the spline socket fits all the other larger lugnuts by that brand and others) lugnuts from Gorilla and they are a damn good set of nuts. I've had one set in use for 15 years and they still are fairly decent looking.

They are also strong enough to fix screwed up threads on a stud, lol.

 

[TotalyHucked]

I have also used those splined Gorillas, I liked them alot. Very good quality

 

[Grit dog]

Do you have enough thread engagement or do you need extended shank lugs as well. Check that out first. Ideally you want a min of the bolt diameter in threads. About 20 threads.
Had to get the ext lugs for alloy wheelson my C10 and the old aluminum wheels on the K20 had marginal thread engagement. I ran em for a year though since 8 lugs and not hauling heavy loads. Not a permanent solution though.

 

[TotalyHucked]

^Good note there, forgot I had to do the same thing with my TT's. My US Mags didn't need them but certainly something to check

 

[Chris64]

Do you have enough thread engagement or do you need extended shank lugs as well. Check that out first. Ideally you want a min of the bolt diameter in threads. About 20 threads.
Had to get the ext lugs for alloy wheelson my C10 and the old aluminum wheels on the K20 had marginal thread engagement. I ran em for a year though since 8 lugs and not hauling heavy loads. Not a permanent solution though.

Yeah, they stick way out past the new wheels but that's a good point. They're thick in the middle but have a really deep recess. That's sorta the problem. The lugs I have now which are pretty deep almost go completely into the wheel so much that I couldn't tighten them if I wanted to.

And I need them fast so now I'm resorting to Amazon.

What do you think? Too cheap?

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[Grit dog]

Honestly they’re fine, IMO. They’re steel and they will hold the wheels on.
If you don’t want spline drive, they make extra long hex lugs as well. Also about $1/ea for a set on Scamazon.
I’ve used a few cheap lug nut sets from Amazon. One on the C10. Both were/are fine.
Not saying the chrome plating on them may be the best quality but who cares. If they rust in a couple years they were only $30

 

[Snoots]

Correct me if I'm wrong (won't be the first or last time) but didn't the correct lug nuts for that rim have about a 3/8" shoulder?

 

[Chris64]

Correct me if I'm wrong (won't be the first or last time) but didn't the correct lug nuts for that rim have about a 3/8" shoulder?

It says conical seat - 60 degrees. I recall the original mags these are styled after had a unique lug nut requirement.

 

[bucket]

Honestly they’re fine, IMO. They’re steel and they will hold the wheels on.
If you don’t want spline drive, they make extra long hex lugs as well. Also about $1/ea for a set on Scamazon.
I’ve used a few cheap lug nut sets from Amazon. One on the C10. Both were/are fine.
Not saying the chrome plating on them may be the best quality but who cares. If they rust in a couple years they were only $30

Generally this is very true.

But, lol. I once got a wheel and tire package from NTW and it included a free set of lugnuts. They were of the tall hex variety, which was nice. But that gall durn plating on them literally came off within a month. It was ridiculous. They got ugly super quick. I still use them though, lol.

 

[JD Miller]

get short lugs nuts so its easier to wash and keep the rims clean

What $$ did you pay for the rims? IIRC they are pretty pricey from summit

Those rims will look Good

 

[Chris64]

get short lugs nuts so its easier to wash and keep the rims clean

What $$ did you pay for the rims? IIRC they are pretty pricey from summit

Those rims will look Good

The price I found was the same everywhere - $333 each. Summit had free shipping which was about as good as it gets. They arrived super fast (ordered on Saturday, arrived on Monday). Discount Tire (same price) couldn't get this size for some reason. I got the tires at Costco which is free installation. I'm happy but my wife isn't . She can't comprehend how tires can be so much...and what was wrong with the old 16.5 wheels!?!?

It's killing me that I've had to work late every day this week and I haven't put them on yet...tomorrow is the day.

And what the heck am I going to do with the old wheels? I'm having a hard time with the idea of turning them in for scrap aluminum.

 

[JD Miller]

Post a pic when you get your rims installed

Some dude bought my old 16.5 aluminum rims . Im guessing he didnt know you cant buy tires for them anymore

I got about the last set of #058, 10" wide, Eagle Alloys that summit had in stock, years back

Eagle Alloys 0589-7088

Free Shipping - Eagle Alloys 0589-7088 with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Wheels at Summit Racing.

www.summitracing.com

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[Grit dog]

I’m more intrigued with how you got tires from Costco that weren’t original size for original size rims.
Fck that place. I never could get them to sell me tires that weren’t in their database as original size.
Hell, had to argue with one of those dipshits to buy batteries recently. Was insistent that I give him the make model etc and then kept telling me I had the wrong battery size. Even after I assured him I knew wtf I was doing and that he wasn’t going to find a proper “size” for my boat.

I guess when you deal with the local ethnicities here all day asking for 3 tires for their Prius Uber or Porsche cayenne you have to be on the defensive about everyone because half of thems brains are still operating in 3rd world mode….
In my case I was replacing very old top of the line agm batteries with something to “get me by”. He was struggling with the fact that they didn’t match the cores I turned in.

 

[sublimeobs]

If you haven't pulled the trigger and are considering options, I bought extended tip spline drive lug nuts from these guys and was happy with the them --> LugNutGuys