Sm465 not shifting

[Josh Helm]

Is it still hooked on the ball ?... maybe guy you had installed the clutch installed throwout bearing in correctly ... it pretty easy to do actually ... it'll slide into fork couple different ways .. but only one is correct!!

 

[Boltrunner]

Im hoping it just fell off the pivot ball. I made 2 round trips that were a about 800 miles each with no problems. Then when i was going to pick up a trailer from a broke down ferd it started acting up. The amount of play in the clutch fork makes me kinda think it fell off the ball. I can move the clutch fork in every direction about 1/4 to 1/2 in. If it fell off the ball is that fixable without pulling the tranny? If the throwout bearing is installed wrong i gotta pull the trans correct?

 

[Dmack]

Yes on pulling the trans to swap the throwout bearing, unfortunately.

 

[Josh Helm]

Yes and no ... the ball yes should be able to snap back on .. but if it's popped off already it will unfortunately happen agian ... the spring retainer is probably lost it's luster... as for the throwout bearing i highly doubt it's bad.. being fresh and not many miles... so if I were you ... I would one get a new clutch fork ... next pull your drive shaft or shafts ... and undo trans crossmember bolts and the trans mounting bolts ... use a jack in the rear and a good! Ratchet strap under the ball housing ... all you need is a few inches ... slide the trans back swap the fork ... and slide it all back together ... 4hr job with beer breaks ... done it ... better then dropping it all out and back up ... I run 4x4s tho ... so the added t case is a pain to drop all out and back in ... changed a clutch with it suspended before as well
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[BigBlackChevy77]

Don’t mean to off topic or thread jack but you can float shift the 465 ? I’ve only been able to do it from 3rd to 4th, can you float shift from 2ns to 3rd or 1st to 2nd ?

 

[Snoots]

If you're going to dink with the fork or replace it, I'd install a new pivot ball with a dollop of axle grease on it as well.

 

[Boltrunner]

Don’t mean to off topic or thread jack but you can float shift the 465 ? I’ve only been able to do it from 3rd to 4th, can you float shift from 2ns to 3rd or 1st to 2nd ?

The 1st to second is sometimes tricky. But 2 to 3 is nice around 27 to 32 mph. I dont use low so i never count that.

 

[Boltrunner]

So i got under there and popped it back on the pivot. No luck. The clutch is still not disengaging.

 

[Boltrunner]

Yes and no ... the ball yes should be able to snap back on .. but if it's popped off already it will unfortunately happen agian ... the spring retainer is probably lost it's luster... as for the throwout bearing i highly doubt it's bad.. being fresh and not many miles... so if I were you ... I would one get a new clutch fork ... next pull your drive shaft or shafts ... and undo trans crossmember bolts and the trans mounting bolts ... use a jack in the rear and a good! Ratchet strap under the ball housing ... all you need is a few inches ... slide the trans back swap the fork ... and slide it all back together ... 4hr job with beer breaks ... done it ... better then dropping it all out and back up ... I run 4x4s tho ... so the added t case is a pain to drop all out and back in ... changed a clutch with it suspended before as well
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Theres enough play with the imput shaft still in most of the way to get the fork on both the bearing and the ball? And can i do it without pulling the bellhousing or do i need to pull that too

 

[Josh Helm]

I slide it back till input shaft was out of clutch... but possible to do it without fully removal I believe... try it and let us know

 

[Customblue]

The throwout bearing comes in two different sizes I believe. Make sure it matches your old one

 

[Boltrunner]

Its mostly tore down now. Im not going to be able to get back to it untill this weekend though. Started a new job today and have orientation for the rest of the week. So far we have been watching the same video on repeat for the past hour... Im about to go to sleep. Much rather be working on the truck.