Hunter79764
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- Sep 1, 2021
- Posts
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- Location
- Grand Prairie, TX
- First Name
- Shawn
- Truck Year
- 1987
- Truck Model
- Suburban V20
- Engine Size
- 350
It certainly can be that easy. Again, if the system is plenty good with R12, it ought to be fine just swapping to 134 with compatible materials etc. You will lose maybe 10-20% due to the refrigerant characteristics, but in a single cab it should be fine.
But I can tell you my Monte Carlo was mostly enough with stock R12, but it needed to run on Hi/MAX at anything over 95° outside, and as long as you drove long enough at high enough speed, it would keep it cool enough to be comfortable. Window tint helped, since I was never able to park in the shade consistently. That was west Texas where 110° was normal, but there is very little humidity. When I switched to 134 on a straight swap, it just wasn't cutting it, especially at idle or stop/go traffic. Adjusting the pressure switch helped so that I got cold vent temps, the condenser was the tube/fin type, and I did not change the orifice. Adding an electric fan made it where my wife was willing to ride in it, but still not "good" in the really hot times.
I abandoned the AC in that one with the engine swap, but if/when it gets a redo, you can bet that I will upgrade the condenser, switch the orifice tube, dial in the low pressure switch, and run electric fans (already do, but I'll keep them for sure) if I want it comfortable. The Suburban will get a similar treatment, microchannel condenser, blue or even red orifice tube, and dial in the low pressure. I plan to keep using the Suburban as a vacation vehicle down near Galveston, and I'm sure you are well aware that Houston area puts a certain extra load on a vehicle's AC...
But I can tell you my Monte Carlo was mostly enough with stock R12, but it needed to run on Hi/MAX at anything over 95° outside, and as long as you drove long enough at high enough speed, it would keep it cool enough to be comfortable. Window tint helped, since I was never able to park in the shade consistently. That was west Texas where 110° was normal, but there is very little humidity. When I switched to 134 on a straight swap, it just wasn't cutting it, especially at idle or stop/go traffic. Adjusting the pressure switch helped so that I got cold vent temps, the condenser was the tube/fin type, and I did not change the orifice. Adding an electric fan made it where my wife was willing to ride in it, but still not "good" in the really hot times.
I abandoned the AC in that one with the engine swap, but if/when it gets a redo, you can bet that I will upgrade the condenser, switch the orifice tube, dial in the low pressure switch, and run electric fans (already do, but I'll keep them for sure) if I want it comfortable. The Suburban will get a similar treatment, microchannel condenser, blue or even red orifice tube, and dial in the low pressure. I plan to keep using the Suburban as a vacation vehicle down near Galveston, and I'm sure you are well aware that Houston area puts a certain extra load on a vehicle's AC...