How to rehab a window regulator manual or power

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I've heard guys complain about the quality of parts store and reproduction window regulators. So I thought I'd do a little write up on how to rehab them as we do this at the shop from time to time and follow this formula with great results. Or maybe you just want to keep you OEM unit, or want to save the money. Whatever your reason if you follow this, you have good shot at it working out. This procedure will work on both power and manual window regulators. The main concern we'd be addressing here would be slow up and down (for power) or hard crank, possibly not even movable (for manual). If it's broken and there is no connection to the window it's very likely that it'll need to be replaced. They aren't to hard to get in and out of the door in most cases so I'm going to focus on the rehabbing part.

Remove from door and inspect. Center pivot point may have a minor to moderate amount looseness and that's ok, as the tracks keep it centered for the most part, but if it's extremely loose, or looks like it might come apart there, then you're going to need a new one. Check to make sure none of the bars are bent, if they are you'll need to straighten them. Most of the time they are fine and can be rehabbed, without any additional work.

If it's power remove the motor off the regulator. Now you need to soak the assembly overnight in something, I'd prefer it be your favorite flavor of light penetrating oil PB or WD-40, and you'll need a bunch of it as you'll want to submerge it. If you don't wanna buy a couple gallons of WD, you can probably soak it in diesel fuel, but steer clear of gasoline or anything to harsh. Mainly you want something that will gently clean and leave behind a light layer of lubrication.

The next morning pull it out of your soak wipe off the excess penetrant and blow the excess out of the joints.

Following the picture below do the following: Red circle, lubricate the tracks those rollers go in with silicone grease. Blue circle, lubricate the two mating gears with silicone grease. If you don't have silicone grease on hand you can pick something else like a plain flavor of wheel bearing grease, in other words no graphite and not the stuff for boat trailers. Yellow circle, lubricate those with a spray on penetrating grease. If you don't have spray penetrating grease on hand, use something else, if you have hyperlube or another kind of motor honey on hand put a couple of dollops of that in place of the penetrating grease and let it soak in before you reassemble even plain 20W50 or 80W90 would be better than nothing.

The picture is of a manual regulator, but power units are similar circle color corresponds to what to lube in above paragraph.

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Give it a shot, other than the down time with the overnight soak I doubt you'll have much more than a 1/2 hour more into it vs remove and replacing. Let me know if you have questions, now or later, I'll be around.
 

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I just pulled a set of manual regulators out of some donor doors I had, The hard to get rollers on the donor are in great shape compared to my OG regulator rollers that are toast. Thanx for the tip!
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I just pulled a set of manual regulators out of some donor doors I had, The hard to get rollers on the donor are in great shape compared to my OG regulator rollers that are toast. Thanx for the tip!
Eric
I probably should have mentioned something more about the rolls in my initial post, so I appreciate you doing it.
 

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Reviving a dead thread to give the part numbers from AuroraGirl's post. The window regulator rollers are available from truckandcarshop.com, page 17 of the squarebody catalogue.

1973 - pn 73-31308 -$4.00ea
1974-87 - pn 74-31309 - $4.00ea (I'd expect they will fit up through 1991 as well)

If you prefer to get them from LMC:
1973 - pn 30-0498 - $4.95ea
1974-87 - pn 30-0752 - $1.95ea (again, should fit through 1991)
 

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I've heard guys complain about the quality of parts store and reproduction window regulators. So I thought I'd do a little write up on how to rehab them as we do this at the shop from time to time and follow this formula with great results. Or maybe you just want to keep you OEM unit, or want to save the money. Whatever your reason if you follow this, you have good shot at it working out. This procedure will work on both power and manual window regulators. The main concern we'd be addressing here would be slow up and down (for power) or hard crank, possibly not even movable (for manual). If it's broken and there is no connection to the window it's very likely that it'll need to be replaced. They aren't to hard to get in and out of the door in most cases so I'm going to focus on the rehabbing part.

Remove from door and inspect. Center pivot point may have a minor to moderate amount looseness and that's ok, as the tracks keep it centered for the most part, but if it's extremely loose, or looks like it might come apart there, then you're going to need a new one. Check to make sure none of the bars are bent, if they are you'll need to straighten them. Most of the time they are fine and can be rehabbed, without any additional work.

If it's power remove the motor off the regulator. Now you need to soak the assembly overnight in something, I'd prefer it be your favorite flavor of light penetrating oil PB or WD-40, and you'll need a bunch of it as you'll want to submerge it. If you don't wanna buy a couple gallons of WD, you can probably soak it in diesel fuel, but steer clear of gasoline or anything to harsh. Mainly you want something that will gently clean and leave behind a light layer of lubrication.

The next morning pull it out of your soak wipe off the excess penetrant and blow the excess out of the joints.

Following the picture below do the following: Red circle, lubricate the tracks those rollers go in with silicone grease. Blue circle, lubricate the two mating gears with silicone grease. If you don't have silicone grease on hand you can pick something else like a plain flavor of wheel bearing grease, in other words no graphite and not the stuff for boat trailers. Yellow circle, lubricate those with a spray on penetrating grease. If you don't have spray penetrating grease on hand, use something else, if you have hyperlube or another kind of motor honey on hand put a couple of dollops of that in place of the penetrating grease and let it soak in before you reassemble even plain 20W50 or 80W90 would be better than nothing.

The picture is of a manual regulator, but power units are similar circle color corresponds to what to lube in above paragraph.

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Give it a shot, other than the down time with the overnight soak I doubt you'll have much more than a 1/2 hour more into it vs remove and replacing. Let me know if you have questions, now or later, I'll be around.
Excellent knowledge to send out. I learned all this the hard way on my own trials and tribulations.
 

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Does anyone have a procedure they use for adjusting the window and regulator after it’s installed?

I bought and installed new regulators several years ago, along with new window felt. But mine are still so tight that my wife has to use two hands to roll them up and down. At installation time they felt a little tight to me, but I thought they would loosen up as the felt wore in. However, there has been no change.
 

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Does anyone have a procedure they use for adjusting the window and regulator after it’s installed?

I bought and installed new regulators several years ago, along with new window felt. But mine are still so tight that my wife has to use two hands to roll them up and down. At installation time they felt a little tight to me, but I thought they would loosen up as the felt wore in. However, there has been no change.
Make sure the glass pane is actually in the track. Not a knock at you. The Last time I replaced my drivers power motor and subsequently had to replace the old worn out regulator that seized, for a couple of days I was baffled with why the window would not go all the way up. I then finally realized It was knocked out of track during the process. I used a plastic detailing shim to get it back in and voilà, the new motor and regulator worked like a charm. I also recommend dry spray lube on your felt if you haven't applied it already.
 

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Does anyone have a procedure they use for adjusting the window and regulator after it’s installed?

I bought and installed new regulators several years ago, along with new window felt. But mine are still so tight that my wife has to use two hands to roll them up and down. At installation time they felt a little tight to me, but I thought they would loosen up as the felt wore in. However, there has been no change.
Also there are two different thickness widths of glass GM used. I believe I have read that on here before. That means there is likely more than one thickness of felt for respective years of production.
 

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Excellent knowledge to send out. I learned all this the hard way on my own trials and tribulations.
Thank you.
Does anyone have a procedure they use for adjusting the window and regulator after it’s installed?

I bought and installed new regulators several years ago, along with new window felt. But mine are still so tight that my wife has to use two hands to roll them up and down. At installation time they felt a little tight to me, but I thought they would loosen up as the felt wore in. However, there has been no change.
There isn't any real magic to adjusting the regulator. Other folks have already given you good advise on the regulators, but also make sure those reproduction regulators aren't binding when they are under a load.

Is it just as hard to roll down as it is up?
 
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Any better ways of setting the rivet on the rollers when you replace them. Never liked the way they turned out when I did them. I had thought about making a tool to do them and the rivets for the vent windows using a screw to press them into shape

First time I have seen this thread and agree, new aftermarket power window regulators are not the answer. Bought 2 new ones and after fighting with the one door a day, took it out and reused the old one with a new motor. Will need to change the rollers but it fits and works for now.
 

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Any better ways of setting the rivet on the rollers when you replace them. Never liked the way they turned out when I did them. I had thought about making a tool to do them and the rivets for the vent windows using a screw to press them into shape

First time I have seen this thread and agree, new aftermarket power window regulators are not the answer. Bought 2 new ones and after fighting with the one door a day, took it out and reused the old one with a new motor. Will need to change the rollers but it fits and works for now.
I reused my original drivers side regulator the first time I replaced the power motor. The 2nd time I replaced the power motor the regulator failed. I used Dorman power motors and regulators. They work great.
 

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Does anyone have a procedure they use for adjusting the window and regulator after it’s installed?

I bought and installed new regulators several years ago, along with new window felt. But mine are still so tight that my wife has to use two hands to roll them up and down. At installation time they felt a little tight to me, but I thought they would loosen up as the felt wore in. However, there has been no change.
Try this, it helped with mine....electric and manual. Loosened up more over time as well.

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