Finally got a running 65 C10

[idahovette]

Sorry Wayne, but it's not gonna be as much fun as an M20 or M21...........or M22......lol

 

[bucket]

wonder why no new ones in the kit?

Because the kit is designed to fit together and work well with your specific cam and spring combo, for optimum performance and longevity. The valve seals are just oil seals and the cam manufacturers aren't going to know exactly what anyone needs. It largely depends on what work has been done on the heads in the past. It will be whatever the machinist decided to use.

 

[Turbo4whl]

In this scenario, what is your shift rpm? Ever try a no-lift-shift with one? I have not been brave enough.

The RPM drops from 4000 or 4500 to about 3000 RPM. No, never a no-lift. I abused it enough as it was.

Sorry Wayne, but it's not gonna be as much fun as an M20 or M21...........or M22......lol

"You gotta run what you brung"

 

[1low4x4]

Because the kit is designed to fit together and work well with your specific cam and spring combo, for optimum performance and longevity. The valve seals are just oil seals and the cam manufacturers aren't going to know exactly what anyone needs. It largely depends on what work has been done on the heads in the past. It will be whatever the machinist decided to use.

10/4. Any idea why they used different ones on these heads, all they had or is there a reason?

Sneak peak still have to finish springs and install intake

 

[Ricko1966]

wonder why no new ones in the kit?

For one thing too many sizes, types and preferences. And most guys don't change them with cam swaps,most change them at valve job time or when they start leaking.

 

[bucket]

10/4. Any idea why they used different ones on these heads, all they had or is there a reason?

Sneak peak still have to finish springs and install intake

I'm sure they had a reason for it, as the exhausts got umbrella seals and the intakes got positive seals. I just don't know what that reason would be. Perhaps the thought was that the umbrella seals let a little more oil past and would help with guide wear on the exhausts?

 

[idahovette]

Or price!!!

 

[1low4x4]

My 3 speed is the 4 bolt side cover I'm assuming muncie. Will a 3 speed saginaw fit in its place (the one with more bolts on the side cover)without having to mess with mounts/driveshaft etc?

I opening mine up and its a little gnarly

 

[DoubleDingo]

My 3 speed is the 4 bolt side cover I'm assuming muncie. Will a 3 speed saginaw fit in its place (the one with more bolts on the side cover)without having to mess with mounts/driveshaft etc?

I opening mine up and its a little gnarly

I believe it's a direct swap with zero mods

 

[idahovette]

The Saginaw might be a fine spline yoke? The original is coarse?.............maybe

 

[DoubleDingo]

The Saginaw might be a fine spline yoke? The original is coarse?.............maybe

I think the yokes/output shafts are the same, but I could be wrong.

My borg warner od 3 speed is a direct swap with my saginaw 3 speed. I have an M20 and the output shaft and transmission length is the same as the other two I mentioned