Electric motor to swap for SBC

[Slybeanx]

Care to expand on this?

Because of the high pollution of the air in the cities and surrounding areas they forbid you to drive into these areas if your vehicle is older than for example 7 years or doesn't meet particular emission regulations.
This rule is for trucks, cars, busses, rvs etc. In Germany there are 58 of these areas (urban access regulations), hundreds in Italy and numbers are rising. Only exception is if it's an historic car.
You have to get a sticker on your windshield and get fined 100$ and up if don't have one.
There are also additional bans for driving diesel vehicles....a real nightmare.

Does Austria allow engine swaps?

I'm fairly certain Germany is a no, but I could see a clean updated engine/exhaust being marketable to keep the older cars on the road with less pollution.

 

[ali_c20]

Does Austria allow engine swaps?

I'm fairly certain Germany is a no, but I could see a clean updated engine/exhaust being marketable to keep the older cars on the road with less pollution.

Yes it's possible in Austria but a real pain and involves a lot of $$$$$. You have to provide tons of paperwork from an authorized expert that everything is save. Most of the work has to be done by authorized auto repair shops which are really expensive here. When all work is done you have to go through various DMV inspections.
This option is way over my budget.

 

[shiftpro]

I’m curious why they skip the trans?

I know that’s how many oems do it, but the motors are in the hubs mostly.

There’s a company that repowers cars with electric motors, but they adapt to the input side of the trans. Albeit, they’re manuals and don’t have the efficiency losses of an automatic. I think it is in fact that EV west company...

Seems like an efficiently rotating manual would aid battery life in a heavy, blocky truck. Not to mention 4wd adaptation would be more straightforward.

I have actually been brainstorming a business to repower classic vehicles if the commies ever win and we lose petrol or it’s just too expensive. At least we could still mostly enjoy our old vehicles. We’d all discover what wind noise is all about real quick. Thank God for stereos. Looks like I’m behind the ball, again...

Just not necessary and the instant torque of electric would probably break parts anyway. The 'no transmission' imo is the only thing cool about electric. But I want a free energy AC electric car thank you very much.

 

[shiftpro]

diesel electric hybrid would be more efficient.

Like trains...

Or the city buses they converted in Holland. The pulled the motor and transmission and installed a tiny 2 cyl diesel twisting a generator. The rear wheels have the motor built into them using the Japanese designed free wheeling motors. They did something with the magnets to eliminate the drag normal motors have.

 

[jake wells]

Like trains...

Or the city buses they converted in Holland. The pulled the motor and transmission and installed a tiny 2 cyl diesel twisting a generator. The rear wheels have the motor built into them using the Japanese designed free wheeling motors. They did something with the magnets to eliminate the drag normal motors have.

My thoughts exactly which is superior to a motor and battery set up.

 

[SquareRoot]

if i could financially pick between an LS or a fully electric motor id go battery powered all the way. Seems like such a fun swap in any vehicle. And "unique" to boot.

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

 

[Slybeanx]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Were you raised in a barn?


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[SquareRoot]

Were you raised in a barn?


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Yep. And proud of it. Common sense seems to be an unommon virtue three days.

 

[RecklessWOT]

Because of the high pollution of the air in the cities and surrounding areas they forbid you to drive into these areas if your vehicle is older than for example 7 years or doesn't meet particular emission regulations.
This rule is for trucks, cars, busses, rvs etc. In Germany there are 58 of these areas (urban access regulations), hundreds in Italy and numbers are rising. Only exception is if it's an historic car.
You have to get a sticker on your windshield and get fined 100$ and up if don't have one.
There are also additional bans for driving diesel vehicles....a real nightmare.

So the Nazis are still alive and well, huh? Jeez that sounds terrible

 

[ali_c20]

yes, the green vegan fascists.

 

[Michael Benardo]

That's pretty outdated. You can get 300-400 miles on a single charge now and there are 65,000 charging stations currently with almost that many currently under construction nationwide. They only take 20 minutes to bring the vehicle to an 80% charge from empty. So you would "fill up" on a long trip just like a regular car. Drive for 6 hours, pull off and plug in at a charging station, walk in and go to the bathroom get a snack and come out to an 80% charge. Its also cheaper per kWh than the equivalent amount of gas it would take.

GM is actually going to start selling electric crate conversions...
https://electrek.co/2020/10/29/gm-1977-k5-blazer-e-converted-electric-power-ecrate-conversion-kit/


I'm all for big block gas spewing old cars and trucks... but I'd take a converted electric K5 over a Tesla any day. I'd totally convert one just to daily back and forth to work, where I can charge for free. There are tons of rusted out donor shells sitting in fields, it would be a fun project

Fast-charging destroys batteries.

 

[Michael Benardo]

So the Nazis are still alive and well, huh? Jeez that sounds terrible

Wow. I am all for a clean environment, but this is too much.

 

[Michael Benardo]

Read it and weep.


Re-volting . I want one.
Bolts to the driveshaft = no transmission

Get it?
Revolting?



Engine, motor...who cares?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-crate-motor-ev-conversion-small-block-v-8/amp/

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Looks like it would be great for commercial users, who only use it for about 100 or so miles, then plug it in to recharge, but for those of us who want to drive more than that? I don't think so.

 

[Michael Benardo]

Are you two volunteering to buy me an electric car? I can't afford to fix my old broken gas vehicles let alone buy an electric vehicle or an electric conversion. Don't think I've ever seen a charging station either. But what the **** would I know I'm outdated.

No you are not outdated, you are stating reality.

 

[Bextreme04]

Fast-charging destroys batteries.

That's just not true.

The reason it only fast charges to 80% is that there is a safe charging curve for batteries. The last 20% of the charge is what takes the longest to charge without damaging the battery. All of these cars have their own built in charging regulation systems that are designed to not allow the batteries to be damaged during charging. There is a possibility to damage some lithium batteries in other applications when fast charging due to using chargers not specifically designed for that battery, heat created during fast charging, or continuing to charge once the battery is full. The automotive systems don't have any of these problems as most of them carry the charging safety systems on-board and have battery cooling systems in place. That's why when you walk past an electric car charging at a station, you can often hear a fan going as it is dumping waste heat from the charge.

The biggest issue with fast charging is that your charging for minimum time, not maximum efficiency, so you waste more energy charging the battery than you would normally. A good analogy would be trying to get somewhere fast, so you are getting worse gas mileage. Although in this case the loss in efficiency is much less than in the gas engine analogy.