Electric Choke Issues

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

TravisUT

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2020
Posts
21
Reaction score
5
Location
Utah
First Name
Travis
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
454
Apologies if this is a duplicate post; I'm having some issues with my carb and was wondering if anyone could help?

I have a Quadrajet 4 barrel, mounted to a stock intake on an 84 C20 454. I recently replaced the hot-air choke with an electric choke, and since then, almost every time I start the truck, I get wet black spatter shooting from the exhaust pipe, along with some fuel-smelling smoke. Once the engine warms (choke opens very quickly), the smoke clears and the truck runs great. With the hot-air choke, this problem didn't happen. Also, I recently replaced the spark plugs (they were all fouled, very carbon coated). I don't know if the fouling was just since the electric choke was put on, or if it's been running rich for the last 3 years (since engine and carb rebuild). I've tried adjusting the air/fuel mixture screws, based on RPM, but that didn't seem to help much.

Should I go back to the hot-air choke, or what can be done? I'm not a mechanic, but am comfortable with working on the equipment.
 

fast 99

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2021
Posts
1,938
Reaction score
2,765
Location
Spokane, Washington
First Name
Brian
Truck Year
81,85
Truck Model
K20
Engine Size
350
Sounds like choke thermostat is either too tight or choke pull-off is bad or misadjusted. Is fast idle adjusted?

Some Q jets have a secondary choke pull-off. if that's the case both pull-offs would need adjusted.

Choke plate should be closed when cold. Within a couple seconds the pull-off should crack it slightly open.
 

TravisUT

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2020
Posts
21
Reaction score
5
Location
Utah
First Name
Travis
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
454
Sounds like choke thermostat is either too tight or choke pull-off is bad or misadjusted. Is fast idle adjusted?

Some Q jets have a secondary choke pull-off. if that's the case both pull-offs would need adjusted.

Choke plate should be closed when cold. Within a couple seconds the pull-off should crack it slightly open.
What do you mean by the choke may be "too tight"?

My Quad has a secondary pull of, and I think they're adjusted right, but they're probably not! :) I just ordered a hand vacuum pump so I can verify the pull-off setups.

The fast idle should be adjusted as well, but same story...is there a simple, step-by-step process for setting/verifying that?
 

fast 99

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2021
Posts
1,938
Reaction score
2,765
Location
Spokane, Washington
First Name
Brian
Truck Year
81,85
Truck Model
K20
Engine Size
350
Too tight, too much wind up of the thermostat bi-metalic spring. Some of the stats are indexed. If yours isn't indexed back it off until the choke plate opens slightly, then go the other direction until plate just closes. Be sure to do this with the throttle open slightly or the fast idle cam may hold the linkage stationary.

There is a spec on fast idle speed, warm engine. Someone else may know it. Guessing..... set on the first step of fast idle cam around 1100 rpm. Screw is on RHS under choke facing forward.

Assuming the rest of the tune up is good, timing, advances, ect. Any adjustments after setting the carb will change overall operation.

If this engine has been running excessively rich oil will be diluted. Change it or as the gas burns off carb settings will change.
 

TravisUT

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2020
Posts
21
Reaction score
5
Location
Utah
First Name
Travis
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
454
Great, thank you. What's the best order to make those adjustments? Should I do the fast idle, primary choke pull off, secondary choke pull off, and then choke adjustment, in that order? Or a different order? I'm worried that one adjustment will mess up the other...
 

TravisUT

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2020
Posts
21
Reaction score
5
Location
Utah
First Name
Travis
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
454
Ok...I think it's all adjusted now. Got the choke and pull off's set, and it seems to be running good. Didn't spit any wet black spatter, so that's a step in the right direction. Once it was running, I hooked a vacuum gauge up to the big manifold port on the front-bottom of the carb, and adjusted the idle mixture screws to vacuum. Both are set about 3 turns out, and I'm getting 18 inches of vacuum. Is that good/ok?

I'm still getting a bit of smoke, but only on revving; idle and drive is ok with no smoke. I pulled a plug and it was all black. I just replaced those plugs a couple of weeks ago, but I suspect the out-of-tune was causing issues, yes? I don't want to replace them until we're confident the underlying cause is fixed...thoughts?
 

Forum statistics

Threads
43,751
Posts
942,119
Members
35,708
Latest member
ihtblzr
Top