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So i havn't opened my rear end but according to this std. gears is 4.11? why not 4.10? 79 k10 is it worth changing?
 

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If your front is 4.10 and the rear is 4.11 and you're asking if you need to make them match exactly, then no, they are close enough.
 

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I don't suppose the build sheet is still in the glove box?
 

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no sir
 

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I don't suppose the build sheet is still in the glove box?

The build sheet is a very uncommon find. I've found them stuck to the bottom of seats between the springs and the foam, and on top of the steering column support behind the cluster. One in the glove box would surely have been discarded years ago.
 

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One in the glove box would surely have been discarded years ago.

Mine was there, almost as good as new. When I replaced the GB liner I used some spray adhesive and put it back where it went.

Too bad more people dont hang on to them in some way.
 

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6 of my 9 squares had the RPO stickers in the glovebox and I think one had it one the fender well under the hood.

As far as standard gear ratio on the RPO code sheets, they can be different each year. The 80 C10 Diesel I had just said Standard Ratio. It happened to be 2.73's. Someone else here had that same thing on their RPO sheet but they had 3.08's. I wouldn't be using "Standard" as way to assume your gear ratio.

As far as 4.11, yes if 4.10 is ratio in the front axle, that is fine. That is so small, it's not any different in variance between tire wear. Say your front tires wear faster than your rears for example. Now you don't want mix and match say a 4.11 and 3.73 or 4.11 and 4.56. Just like you wouldn't run 35 in. tires on the rear and 31's in the front.

Exact gear ratio can vary depending on axle model. I think 12 bolt rear's actually a 4.11, while 14 bolts run 4.10s. Some ratio's you won't even be able to use. For example, Dana 60 has a 3.54 ratio, but you won't find a 3.54 or anything close in the GM 10 bolt. 3.42 is what it uses. Ford 9 inch runs a 4.57 ratio, while Chevy 10 and 12 bolt car ratios 4.56's. 14 bolt full floats run a 3.21 and Dana axles run a 3.23. You won't come across it, but you could match 3.21's with 3.23 and not have a problem. As said, Dana 60 will use a 3.54 and Ford truck axles use 3.55. Point being, you'll see stuff like that might not be familiar to you, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It probably does. My 62 Chevy 1/2 ton even had 3.90 ratio dropout 3rd member. I've even been told some axles can have 2 ratio's close together, like a 4.10 and 4.11 depending on the gear manufacturer. I've never come across that option myself. Pretty much as far as mixing and matching, if the first 2 numbers are the same, go for it. Like the 4.1(0) and the 4.1(1), or the 4.5(6) and 4.5(7), 3.2(1) and 3.2(3).
 

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Pop's '69 F-250 is 4:11 rear and 4:10 front. It is supposed to be for helping the front pull a little more while off-roading. And that truck is a beast of a 4-wheeler.
 

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I'd say the difference isn't even noticeable. You're talking .01 of a turn.
 

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Mine was there, almost as good as new. When I replaced the GB liner I used some spray adhesive and put it back where it went.

Too bad more people dont hang on to them in some way.

That's not the build sheet, that's the RPO sheet. The build sheet has EVERYTHING on it... options, build location, dealer being shipped to, etc.

I'd say the difference isn't even noticeable. You're talking .01 of a turn.

Agreed.
 

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isn't there a build sheet tucked in the springs under the seat???
 

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And they can be anywhere. Sometimes, under the seat, behind the seat, under the carpet, behind the headliner in some cars, taped up behind the dash.
 

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I'd say the difference isn't even noticeable. You're talking .01 of a turn.

True, not much for us humans to notice but mechanically it makes a difference.

I ran the rpm formula just to check it out because I am curious by nature. If you were driving 40 miles per hour with 33" diameter tires, the engine rpm's would be 1,674 with 4:11's and 1,670 with 4:10's. Very minimal indeed, but the drive train would notice the difference if being driven on pavement.
 

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Mine was there, almost as good as new. When I replaced the GB liner I used some spray adhesive and put it back where it went.

Too bad more people dont hang on to them in some way.

The rpo sticker is not the build sheet, the build sheet is way more involved.
 

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