Motor Mounts?

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The person I got the truck from home made this mounts, I was wondering where I can find a kit to replace these or how to make my own crossmember?
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Your missing the crossmember and the motor mount frame brackets? Or just the motor mount frame brackets? If its just the brackets that the motor mount bolt to, I have another set if you need them.
 

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Never mind, I see the picture a lil better now.
 

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I've seen them on eBay the other day!


83 gmc c10
- 350/a883

BUILT NOT BOUGHT
 

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Like anything, else it's a matter of degrees. Frames come from the mill with dozens - if not 100's - of holes drilled in them. Some get filled with rivets, some get bolts and some get nothing.

It more a matter of knowing where not to drill, the maximum allowable bore for the given area and the allowable amount of surface area reduction caused by drilling.

Far greater damage is done when people start using a torch/plasma cutter. There is a huge difference between a clean cut made with a sharp drill bit and blowing a hole with a flame.

Here are a couple of shots showing stock frame rails - it looks like Swiss cheese in certain areas:
 

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The person I got the truck from home made this mounts, I was wondering where I can find a kit to replace these or how to make my own crossmember?
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I seen this and jumped that definitely doesn't look like a good idea, a cross member is a must for your build.
 

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I seen this and jumped that definitely doesn't look like a good idea, a cross member is a must for your build.

It looks like this may have been a 2WD truck converted to 4x4?
 

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Like anything, else it's a matter of degrees. Frames come from the mill with dozens - if not 100's - of holes drilled in them. Some get filled with rivets, some get bolts and some get nothing.

It more a matter of knowing where not to drill, the maximum allowable bore for the given area and the allowable amount of surface area reduction caused by drilling.

Far greater damage is done when people start using a torch/plasma cutter. There is a huge difference between a clean cut made with a sharp drill bit and blowing a hole with a flame.

Here are a couple of shots showing stock frame rails - it looks like Swiss cheese in certain areas:

I don't disagree about the ability to drill the frame. I also agree about the difference between a PROPERLY drilled hole vs a torch cut hole. My point was that the flanges (as I was taught) are an absolute no drill zone. The frame wall is drillable and I know people who have drilled the frame walls strategically just for weight reduction. The strength of the frame isn't so much in the wall as it is the flanges and it doesn't take much to weaken them.

This is how I was taught, I am not saying that it is gospel. I'm looking for clarification as I am always willing to learn something new.
 

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C channel is designed to be installed with the greatest stresses/loading being parallel to the long side. This is apparent when looking at truck frame rails as an example.

It is a given that, other than during an t-bone type impact from a crash, the purpose of the frame rails (basically a pair of parallel c-channels) is primarily to support loads that are applied in the vertical direction.

The flanges, as you are calling them, are essentially only there to prevent twisting of the long (i.e load bearing side) during periods of heavy multi-vector loading.

Under controlled laboratory conditions, where the load force could be applied perfectly parallel to the long side (and thus eliminate any twisting/torque considerations) the short sides would basically serve no purpose.

As an example, take a hacksaw blade and observe how easy it deflects when a bending moment is applied perpendicular to the flat sides of the blade. Then try to bend the blade by applying the same moment parallel to the blade sides. It doesn't bend.

The dimension of the short sides of c-channel can be quite small in relation to the long side and still be effective. The edge length is often determined more by construction and mounting requirements than structural strength requirements. And also, to limit deflection of the long side in the event of a side impact.

Drilling into them has minimal effect on the primary purpose of the frame rails as a whole - which is to support the weight of the body and cargo loads (downward forces) and the upward forces generated by the suspension system.
 

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The person I got the truck from home made this mounts, I was wondering where I can find a kit to replace these or how to make my own crossmember?
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Holy phuck!!!!! :wtf:


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Yes it is a 2wd converted to a 4x4.. It was made into a 4x4 with a 327 in it.. The kid I bought it from put the 350 in himself. All the other work is good but those mounts are trash
 

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I like the crossmember, but those mounts in that picture don't look anything like mine.. I do have a set of mounts that look like that with a crossmember that came with my
Truck, I attempted to swap the mounts but they didn't seem to fit or bolt up anywhere.
 

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Frame does already have 650,000 miles under its belt
 

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