Catalytic converters: does your square have them?

Does your square have a catalytic converter?

  • yes

  • no

  • yes, but only because I couldn't get a sticker/plate without them.

  • no, but only because I'm too lazy/cheap to change what the previous owner did.

  • no, because my truck didn't come with them.


Results are only viewable after voting.

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Craig 85

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2017
Posts
3,917
Reaction score
4,116
Location
Nashville, TN
First Name
Craig
Truck Year
1985
Truck Model
K30 SRW
Engine Size
454/TH-400/NP205
I remember when I used to have my 65 smogged every 2 years. Was glad when they changed that rule

I remember in June of '84 when smog test stated. The rule then was 20 years and older needed smog. I had the original sales receipt for when my dad purchased the car new in Jan of '64 proving it was over 20 years. The state still made me smog it. They were going to fail it as it needed a Nox kit, but the cost of the kit and install was more than the max repair cost of $50. Never had to worry about it again.
 

Catbox

Full Access Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2018
Posts
4,452
Reaction score
16,679
Location
Just Outside of Portland Oregon
First Name
Peter
Truck Year
1979
Truck Model
C20 Silverado Camper Special
Engine Size
461
My truck was built in Canada and it came with a factory cat under it.
Somewhere along the line of it moving from Toronto to Vancouver BC and finally to Oregon the exhaust had been replaced with dual pipes that both have cats in them.
They are the small honeycomb type now.

Since I live in Oregon and they test everything from'76 and up, I will have to put new ones under it when I rebuild the exhaust with headers and all new pipes.
They only perform the visual under the truck to make sure they are still there as well as the sniffer test.
 

Poppy 87

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Posts
1,081
Reaction score
1,942
Location
Bloomingdale GA
First Name
John
Truck Year
1987
Truck Model
R10 Silverado
Engine Size
305
My 87 R10 still has the cat but no muffler. Greater Atlanta requires emission testing back 25 years, part of which is visual inspection. 2012 was the last year my truck needed test
 

80BrownK10

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 22, 2019
Posts
1,878
Reaction score
1,247
Location
Greenwood, SC
First Name
Nate
Truck Year
1980
Truck Model
K10
Engine Size
350
My 81 with 350 came with a single pelt type cat back to a muffler and then dual outlets that came out the right side behind the fender. When the warranty was up the whole exhaust from manifolds right to the back was removed and headers with duals installed. All nicely stored in the attic of my garage just in case?? With a distributor recurve and riching the secondary jets mileage went from 7 mpg to 13 mpg while pulling a car hauler trailer loaded.
I'd love to see you pulled ng a loaded car hauler with an 81 square with a 350 getting 13mpg.!!!

I get 8 mpg pulling mine. But I do have 33s and a lift and 4wd
 

80BrownK10

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 22, 2019
Posts
1,878
Reaction score
1,247
Location
Greenwood, SC
First Name
Nate
Truck Year
1980
Truck Model
K10
Engine Size
350
Here is SC no vehicles are inspected for any reason, smog or otherwise. They got rid of state inspections around about 1996?
 
Joined
Oct 14, 2019
Posts
48
Reaction score
26
Location
Springfield Illinois
First Name
Kevin
Truck Year
1978
Truck Model
K10
Engine Size
350
I'd love to see you pulled ng a loaded car hauler with an 81 square with a 350 getting 13mpg.!!!

I get 8 mpg pulling mine. But I do have 33s and a lift and 4wd
I am so jealous of you guys. Mine wouldn't handle my 28' 10k trailer as it is and I'm getting around 8 mpg not pulling anything.
 

80BrownK10

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 22, 2019
Posts
1,878
Reaction score
1,247
Location
Greenwood, SC
First Name
Nate
Truck Year
1980
Truck Model
K10
Engine Size
350
I am so jealous of you guys. Mine wouldn't handle my 28' 10k trailer as it is and I'm getting around 8 mpg not pulling anything.
I'm only pulling a 16ft dovetail wood bed car hauler. I probably would have a lot more trouble with that much trailer.
 

PeteJr

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2021
Posts
1,001
Reaction score
3,671
Location
NW MS
First Name
Jim
Truck Year
1983
Truck Model
GMC Sierra Classic 1500
Engine Size
350
My '83 GMC has one, but when I get to the point of switching engines, it'll be left off..........
(I live in Mississippi............ think they worry about pollution? :laughing1:)

If you want to take yours off....... Just park it in Memphis overnight and they will remove it for FREE !

:superhack:
 

HotRodPC

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Joined
Aug 29, 2010
Posts
47,128
Reaction score
9,299
Location
OKC, OK
First Name
HotRod
Truck Year
85 K20 LWB
Truck Model
Silverado
Engine Size
454 - Turbo 400 - 3.73
My 86 C20 came factory with dual exhaust and no cats. No Unleaded Fuel on the fuel guage, and biggo holes for the filler pipes to the tanks. No tiny unleaded flapper fillers. Same as the Diesel fillers I do believe.
 

Ellie Niner

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2021
Posts
382
Reaction score
615
Location
Tucson, AZ
First Name
Tory
Truck Year
1986
Truck Model
K10 Silverado
Engine Size
LE9 305
Yes. After the screen in my original catcon rotted out and let the beads go flying, then an unfortunate backfire blew the muffler wide open, I installed dual exhausts with dual converters. I'm not an enviro-****, but catalysts have proven themselves in improving air quality, and I think it's a good move. I also had a prissy girlfriend who complained a lot about the gassy smelling exhaust when we used to cruise Main with the windows down, and thought I was going to be moving to a place where I'd be getting emissions tests... both of those issues have been rectified, and now those notoriously weak-chested aftermarket cats are starting to get tired... I'll probably replace 'em as funds allow.
 

drware

Junior Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2012
Posts
5
Reaction score
2
Location
Cleveland Tn.
First Name
Donnie
Truck Year
1986
Truck Model
K30 Silverado
Engine Size
454
My 86 1 ton came with out cats and with dual from factory
Donnie
 

C10MixMaster

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2016
Posts
756
Reaction score
1,424
Location
Kingman AZ
First Name
Ben
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
C10 BIG10
Engine Size
ZZ4 350
When I was looking to buy a truck of my requirements was a truck that did not come with a cat or EGR from the factory. In 77 the heavy half tons did not have them.
 

SirRobyn0

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2019
Posts
6,755
Reaction score
11,402
Location
In the woods in Western Washington
First Name
Rob
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
C20
Engine Size
305
Yes. After the screen in my original catcon rotted out and let the beads go flying, then an unfortunate backfire blew the muffler wide open, I installed dual exhausts with dual converters. I'm not an enviro-****, but catalysts have proven themselves in improving air quality, and I think it's a good move. I also had a prissy girlfriend who complained a lot about the gassy smelling exhaust when we used to cruise Main with the windows down, and thought I was going to be moving to a place where I'd be getting emissions tests... both of those issues have been rectified, and now those notoriously weak-chested aftermarket cats are starting to get tired... I'll probably replace 'em as funds allow.
This is exactly my feeling. Also for anyone not aware car exhaust contains NOx, while this gas isn't a long term environmental hazard, it is VERY good at destroying lung tissue on contact. So if your sitting in traffic or rolling down the road and you can smell exhaust you can bet your breathing in at least some NOx more so if your not running a cat. Ask any older mechanic that has developed breathing issues. They'll like know about it.
 
Last edited:

Ellie Niner

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2021
Posts
382
Reaction score
615
Location
Tucson, AZ
First Name
Tory
Truck Year
1986
Truck Model
K10 Silverado
Engine Size
LE9 305
This is exactly my feeling. Also for anyone not aware car exhaust contains NOx, while this gas isn't a long term environmental hazard, it is VERY good at destroying lung tissue on contact. So if your sitting in traffic or rolling down the road and you can smell exhaust you can bet your breathing in at least some NOx more so if your not running a cat. Ask any older mechanic that has developed breathing issues. They'll like know about it.
I'll admit that I get frustrated with emissions controls at times, but taking a look at pictures of the thick smog blanketing heavy industrial areas in places like China and India, then comparing that with ours... sorta reminds you that there is a valid reason for these devices. China and India are kinda like where we were 50 years ago.
 

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
44,163
Posts
950,690
Members
36,276
Latest member
2manysquares2care
Top