Tuff Country Lift Kit Experience

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JimVG

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Hello, this is a bit long but detailed in hopes of saving someone else from the nightmare I am experiencing.

When researching for recommendations for a quality lift kit for my 1978 K20 I discovered that Tuff Country was recommended consistently across popular square body sites, including this one.

I ordered a 2” EZ-Ride complete kit from Suspension Connection, whom a Tuff County tech recommended as a reputable authorized dealer.

My purpose for writing this is to post the multitude of problems that I have experienced with Tuff Country support, poor product quality, and extremely bad product fit and finish. That said, Suspension Connection simply sold me the kit.

First and foremost, I was sent the kit including (4) springs via FedEx. The front springs were in an open, battered box that was inadequately packaged. The rear springs were shipped without any packaging, or the box may have been completely destroyed and discarded somewhere in-route.

All of the springs that I received were in very rough shape. Tuff Country informed me pre-sale that their springs were powder coated. All of the springs that I received were painted, and very poorly done. In addition to the unsightly appearance, there is a good percentage of these springs that are devoid of any paint at all, exposing raw steel. The simple construction of these springs is also inferior, with no attention to quality construction.

In addition to all of this, one of the rear springs was incorrectly labeled with the correct part number but the wrong spring. I photo documented the obvious differences in the two rear springs, and sent them to both Tuff Country and Suspension Connection. Suspension Connection dismissed the problem completely, stating that the springs were labeled correctly, and the packaging information was correct. This is unacceptable, as the photos I sent clearly show that one spring has a 1-1/2” higher arch and is 1“ longer eye-to-eye.

So I contact Tuff Country, sending them the same information. Their tech immediately recognizes the problem from the photos, agrees to send a replacement but does not get back to me with shipping info and an ETA. After two days of trying to acquire that information, I finally get connected to a supervisor. He informs me that a replacement spring will be shipped in about two weeks. My truck now will sit on jack stands until that spring is received. This is completely unacceptable, and I should have been sent a replacement spring over-night. Tuff Country is in Utah and I am in Washington State, so it certainly could have been accomplished. The blatant lack of accountability is completely unacceptable.

Other issues include inferior Grade 8 hardware that is incorrectly sized for the application. The intended use of front brake line re-location brackets simply do not work. I purchased extended front brake lines that are essential with this kit and should be included. The kit came with (4) shocks as well, which were also inadequately packaged, mis-handled at some point, and are considerably scratched. The eyelet sleeves supplied with the shocks are the wrong size. Instructions are not accurate And incomplete.

The bottom line is that Tuff Country is lacking concern for customer care and support, has apparently abandon any standard for quality control, and has no regard for post-sales problems that are entirely their responsibility.

I sincerely hope that your experience is much better than mine!

Jim
 
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The first two thoughts I have here are:
1. I am sorry this happened to you.
2. Your first post on this forum is a rant about a vendor that normally gets great reviews so are you a legitimate source?

Can you include/attach some pictures?

When I ordered my Skyjacker 2.5" front springs they made no attempt to put them in a box. The labeling was very firmly attached to the springs but they were shipped with no box, no packaging of any type. I would think that with something as awkward and heavy as a set of springs creating a box would be problematic.

I am in no way defending Tuff Country, I have never done business with them. I will point out that the shipping companies have been showing less and less regard for taking care of packages recently. There are lots of reasons for that but I have seen some awful service from shippers recently with boxes crushed that should have been easy to protect.

I hope you get your springs sorted out. Please post some pics of the work and the truck!
 

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I agree. Sucks that this happened to you. It really sounds like suspension connection is the one giving you the shaft though. I'll also point out that the recommendation for Tuff Country is really a best bank for the buck evaluation. Also, you don't need brake hoses or a lift arm for only a 2" lift. You will likely need them for a 4", but not always. What "relocation bracket" are you talking about?

I have 4" Tuff Country EZ Ride HD's on my K25 because I got them locally for $100. I bought the rest of my suspension stuff from ORD and paid about the same as that kit, but got kevlar greasable bushings/hardware, HD front shackles, Tuff Country sx8000 shocks, and ORD front/rear brake lines. The springs I got seem to be the same or better quality as the OEM ones that they replaced, so I'm not really sure what you were hoping for and what you actually got. Maybe things have changed? Pics of what you actually got would be helpful too.
 

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I put the rough country 2" lift on my truck as well. Parts were shipped as you described, so what. All my stuff fit, arrived on time, and installed in the 7-10 hour window they prescribed.
I however made sure that I had parts that fit prior dis mantling anything. Call me old fashioned, but I have rode the ride your on now and did not like it any more than you do.
Eric
 

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Thank you to all who have taken the time to respond. Much appreciated.

I woiuld like to clarify that my intention was not to post a rant about Tuff Country and/or Suspension Connection as companies, but simply to post my unfavorable experience in hopes that anyone else dealing with them might be forewarned and verify pre-sale that these issues would not be repeated for them.

I made the mistake of expecting that I was getting what I paid for; good customer service, and quality parts. I now realize that I should have dug deeper into others experience with these companies and products. After this all occurred, I did check the Better Business Bureau and discovered some negative reviews. That link is here: https://www.bbb.org/us/ut/west-jordan/profile/new-auto-parts/tuff-country-suspension-1166-10062138 (cut/paste into a browser).

I have attached some pics per your request. The first is a partial pic of the order with the part number labels that were attached to the springs. These labels are correct for the springs I need, and were attached at Tuff Country. Although the order was placed through Suspension Components, the entire kit was drop shipped directly from Tuff Country. The second pic shows the 1-1/2” difference in height as the lay inverted on my flat shop concrete slap. The third pic shows the difference in length. It looks minimal in these pics, but when measured along the arc of the spring, one is about 2” longer than the other. The last pic is both rear springs side-by-side from the top. You can see that the spring clamps are in different locations from spring to spring.

You may agree from the second pic that these are very poorly painted, and definitely not powder coated as I was told. This coating easily flakes off.
 

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@JimVG That does suck. Thanks for posting the pics.

I was torn between ordering the Tuff Country and the Skyjacker, I still wonder if the Tuff Country might not ride a little smoother.

I will attach a pic of the Skyjacker front springs as they looked when I got them home. I do think yours like like...well, like Hammered Goat S**t compared to mine. @SirRobyn0 might agree with me on this one...;)


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Thanks again for the reply's. Here is a pic of my 1978 Chevrolet K20 that I am installing this kit on. I will post a pic when completed.
 

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I have had a good experience with Tuff county suspensions with my k10, 4" ez ride, and now a bad one with my K5, 2" easy ride. Their support is next to none.
 

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Another major issue is that one of the included rear Tuff Country SX8000 shocks was completely locked in the compressed position, and could not be extended. I immediately reported this problem to Tuff Country, and the tech informed me a replacement shock would be shipped overnight. I received the replacement the next day. Initially, the replacement shock had the same problem, but I did get this one to release.

All (4) of the shocks in the kit appeared to be mis-handled, indicated by scratches in the white paint. One shock had a slightly bent top eyelet. The eyelet sleeves supplied with the shocks are the wrong size, requiring the use of the factory sleeves.

The Tuff Country instructions list installation time as “4 to 6 hours”. Due to incorrect and/or damaged parts and inventory/shipping delays, my truck was on jack stands for 4 weeks.

I will have to prep and re-coat the springs in place with fresh paint. This is required to cover the exposed bare steel. Other than that, the installation is complete. Replacing the worn springs with a 2” lift plus 33 inch tires gave the truck a total lift of about 3-1/2”.
 

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Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm even more sorry that it appears I'm about to fall into the same situation with Tuff Country. Wish I would have read this post sooner. More to come soon, I'll hold judgment pending on how they handle my situ.
 

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@JimVG truck looks great, bummer you had to go through that! Just curious, did you decide to do the 2in lift to level the truck out or for other reasons? I just got a ‘77 K-10 I’m super excited about and the front is lower than the rear. I’d like to level the truck out and put some 33s on it so was exploring the 2in lift option, hence my question for why you went with the 2in. Thanks for the help! I’m just trying to figure out the easiest was to level the front out.
 

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Hello, I decided on a 2” lift because I wanted to use the narrow 285/75/16 on the factory 7” rims. This keeps the tire completely under the fender. It actually measured to be about a 3-1/2” lift combining the lift and the tires.

Good luck, and please do your research if you are considering Tuff-Country and/or Suspension Connection. As you have read, my experience with these two companies was not good.
 

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I don’t blame you for bitchin. New stuff is supposed to look new.Period
 

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