Mounting tires at home

[Ricko1966]

These were real deal back in the 60s and 70s professional grade stuff for shops that really worked. See the width on the hook its 2"and the hook is 1" deep. That's why the HF one doesn't work, the hooks too narrow so it rolls over instead of sliding along. It also isn't deep enough so even if you get it to slide part of the way as soon as you pull at all it pops out.

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[Ricko1966]

Hook is 2" wide 1" depth 1/4" material .the bar itself is 39" long 1-1/4 round. The pusher wheel is 2"

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[Ricko1966]

@Dmack watch this I'm impressed it doesn't work as good as the coates,but it works fatten it up to 2" I think you'd have something. FWIW my coates bar is 1and 1/4 the hook is 2 " wide.

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[78C10BigTen]

At work we use a coates 40-40, its old and sluggish but it works great if ya know her ticks. I love teaching new guys how to use it lol.

 

[SDJunkMan]

I picked this machine up a couple of weeks ago, but not sure where to mount it. How close to the wall can I mount it?

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[Ricko1966]

Okay I mounted some tires last night.Happy as a clam,but one of them I cannot seat the bead to save my life. Ratchet strap around the middle and cinched, nope. Carb cleaner,and starting fluid sprayed and lit,nope. Anyone have any other ideas besides a cheetah. I've never had one I couldn't pop on with starting fluid so I am really scratching my head. Yes I know starting fluid mounting is dangerous,been doing it that way 30 years and I'm not going to stop now just cause someone says it's dangerous.

 

[Ricko1966]

I picked this machine up a couple of weeks ago, but not sure where to mount it. How close to the wall can I mount it?

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The mounting bar is just a little over 3 feet,and you need room to move I'd say center of post to wall minimum 3feet I think 4 would be better.

 

[SDJunkMan]

The mounting bar is just a little over 3 feet,and you need room to move I'd say center of post to wall minimum 3feet I think 4 would be better.

I was thinking about that much, didn't want to bolt it down then have to move it. I was looking for one with a powered bead breaker, but this one came up, and it's a lot better than breaking them down with a handy man jack and tire bars

 

[Ricko1966]

I was thinking about that much, didn't want to bolt it down then have to move it. I was looking for one with a powered bead breaker, but this one came up, and it's a lot better than breaking them down with a handy man jack and tire bars

That bead breakers a dream, did you get the mounting bar? That whole machine, bead breaker and all works great. It's what I was used to,then I mail ordered this hunk a junk . You will be real happy the bead breaker actually works,and the mount bar actually will put a tire on.

 

[SDJunkMan]

That bead breakers a dream, did you get the mounting bar? That whole machine, bead breaker and all works great. It's what I was used to,then I mail ordered this hunk a junk . You will be real happy the bead breaker actually works,and the mount bar actually will put a tire on.

Yup, got the mounting bar, pretty sure everything is there including a couple of extra tire bars and the jig to hold tne tire while patching it. I need to make an adapter for wide 5 wheels though, have some VW tires to dismount.

 

[Ricko1966]

I think 1 weider home gym Olympic style weight with some holes drilled in it would do the trick

 

[Ricko1966]

K figured it out. Posting in case this ever helps some one else. Dismounted to tire that won't bead am going to wedge the tire open in between the beads with wood blocks all day in the sun tomorrow so at rest the beads will be touching the rim when I mount it

 

[SirRobyn0]

At work we use a coates 40-40, its old and sluggish but it works great if ya know her ticks. I love teaching new guys how to use it lol.

I remember those machines. They were the gold standard in air operated tire machines for a lot of years, even long after the "euro" tire machines became common place. Mainly because a skilled operator could run the 40-40 so much faster than a euro machine. Fast forward to 2005, I was managing the last tire store I'd work at. There was one 40-40 machine tucked into a corner, for me when I had to do tires. Everything else was done on a modern euro style machine. I think the biggest thing that killed the 40-40 and the 40-50, was the euro machines became faster and larger aluminum wheels became common. When I left that job I came back about a month later to pick up somethings I'd left behind and noticed the 40-40 was missing. One of the guys said they let the scrap man take it GRRRR If I'd of know that I would have taken it! I just looked it up, coats still sells rebuilt 40-50, machines as the 40-50A for $2,000

K figured it out. Posting in case this ever helps some one else. Dismounted to tire that won't bead am going to wedge the tire open in between the beads with wood blocks all day in the sun tomorrow so at rest the beads will be touching the rim when I mount it

Even when I was working in the tire stores with a cheetah, we'd have to do that now and then. The only difference is we'd put it in a bead spreader rather than use wood.

 

[idahovette]

At some point in the late 70s, early 80s when they were downsizing, they also started making the steel wheels a little flimsy. Those good ole center post machines could bend the rims if the bead was stuck tight. Saw a few of em at the shop I worked at

 

[Ricko1966]

I remember those machines. They were the gold standard in air operated tire machines for a lot of years, even long after the "euro" tire machines became common place. Mainly because a skilled operator could run the 40-40 so much faster than a euro machine. Fast forward to 2005, I was managing the last tire store I'd work at. There was one 40-40 machine tucked into a corner, for me when I had to do tires. Everything else was done on a modern euro style machine. I think the biggest thing that killed the 40-40 and the 40-50, was the euro machines became faster and larger aluminum wheels became common. When I left that job I came back about a month later to pick up somethings I'd left behind and noticed the 40-40 was missing. One of the guys said they let the scrap man take it GRRRR If I'd of know that I would have taken it! I just looked it up, coats still sells rebuilt 40-50, machines as the 40-50A for $2,000



Even when I was working in the tire stores with a cheetah, we'd have to do that now and then. The only difference is we'd put it in a bead spreader rather than use wood.

That's funny,I have a bead spreader, forgot all about it. I feel brilliant now.