GM 4200 I6 swap?

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Has anyone done a 4200 series inline 6 swap on a square yet? My plan has been to do a LS type swap but decent engines have really gone up in price in my area. A higher mileage 6.0 and 4l80 is going to be over 3k from what I’ve found.

I’ve come across a few people starting to mess with the Atlas in-line engines and apparently they‘re a pretty stout engine and easy to make some good power numbers. They’re also quite cheap and come hooked to a 4l60 trans.

Just thought I’d ask if anyone has saw one in a square yet and what it took to make it work.
 

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There's someone on here souping up a 4.2 (4200) can't remember the name of it. But he's really trying to get some power out of it but I don't think it's in his square.
 

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Is this the engine you speak of?

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I think its based off the 250 but they put them in the trailblazers. Made after the s10
 

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Not a square, but I put a mildly souped up GMC 302 and a 4L80e in my 1937 GMC T14.

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That thing idles so cool!
 

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Is that a modern straight six? Educate us, please. What kind of vehicle do those come in?

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General Motors Atlas
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ManufacturerGeneral Motors Corporation
Also calledVortec
Production2002–2012
ConfigurationStraight-4, Straight-5, and Straight-6
Displacement
  • 2.8 L; 169.0 cu in (2,770 cc)
  • 2.9 L; 178.3 cu in (2,921 cc)
  • 3.5 L; 211.1 cu in (3,460 cc)
  • 3.7 L; 222.9 cu in (3,653 cc)
  • 4.2 L; 253.9 cu in (4,160 cc)
Cylinder bore
  • 93 mm (3.66 in)
  • 95.5 mm (3.76 in)
Piston stroke102 mm (4.02 in)
Cylinder block materialAluminum
Cylinder head materialAluminum
ValvetrainDOHC 4 valves x cyl. with VVT
Compression ratio10.0:1
Max. engine speed6,300 RPM
Fuel systemMulti-point fuel injection
Fuel typeGasoline
Oil systemWet sump
Cooling systemWater-cooled
Power output175–291 hp (130–217 kW)
Torque output185–277 lb⋅ft (251–376 N⋅m)
Predecessor
Atlas is a name for a family of modern inline piston engines for trucks from General Motors, used in the GMT355 and GMT360 platforms. The series debuted in 2002 with the Oldsmobile Bravada, and is also used in the Buick Rainier, the Chevrolet TrailBlazer and Colorado, the GMC Envoy and Canyon, the Hummer H3, Isuzu Ascender and i-370, and the Saab 9-7X. The engines use GM's Vortec name, and Straight-4, Straight-5, and Straight-6 engines are all part of the same family, sharing the same manufacturing equipment, rods, pistons, valves, and other parts. They feature coil-on-plug ignition systems,[1] variable valve timing on the exhaust side, electronic throttle control, and a special oil pan with a pass-through for the half shafts in four-wheel drive vehicles. The inclusion of VVT on the exhaust camshaft side allows the Atlas series to meet emissions standards without the use of EGR, simplifying the engine design and increasing power for a broad power curve. The LL8 shares 75% of its components with the LK5 and L52; while the LK5 and L52 share 89% of their components.[2]
The Atlas engines feature aluminum cylinder blocks and heads, with the cylinder bores featuring replaceable steel cylinder liners.[1] The 4- and 5-cylinder versions feature dual balance shafts,[3][4] balance shafts being unnecessary in the 6-cylinder.[5]
The Atlas program began in 1995 along with the planning for GM's next-generation mid-size SUVs and pickup trucks. These vehicles were designed around the I6 engine. The I6 version was used in a Baja 1000 racing truck, winning its first race in a class that also included V8 engines. Another I6-powered truck won the truck class at the Pikes Peak International Hillclimb.
The Atlas engines were produced at the Flint Engine South plant in Flint, Michigan, while the I4 and I5 versions were produced at the Tonawanda Engine plant in Tonawanda, New York, near Buffalo.

LL8 (Vortec 4200)[edit]​

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2006 LL8 (Vortec 4200) engine in 2006 Chevrolet TrailBlazer
The LL8 (or Vortec 4200), is a straight-6 gasoline engine produced from 2002 to 2009. It was the first Atlas engine, and was introduced in 2002 for the Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, and Oldsmobile Bravada. The engine was also used in the Buick Rainier, Saab 9-7X, and Isuzu Ascender.
It displaces 4.2 L (4,160 cc; 253.9 cu in), with a 93 mm × 102 mm (3.66 in × 4.02 in) bore and stroke. It has four valves per cylinder, utilizes dual-overhead cams (DOHC) design, and features variable valve timing on the exhaust cam, a first for GM inline engines. When introduced, this engine's power was 270 hp (201 kW) at 6,000 rpm and torque was 275 lb⋅ft (373 N⋅m) at 3,600 rpm. 2003 saw a slight bump in power to 275 hp (205 kW), while torque was unchanged. For 2006, power was increased to 291 hp (217 kW) at 6,000 rpm and torque to 277 lb⋅ft (376 N⋅m)) at 4800 rpm with the addition of a MAF and a complete internal redesign of the engine; however, due to the new SAE rating procedures, ratings can vary slightly between years. The engine redline is 6,300 rpm. The LL8 was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2002 through 2005 and was the basis for all the other Atlas engines. With the closure of the Moraine, Ohio, plant and the discontinuation of the GMT360 platform (Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, etc.), production of the LL8 also ended.[6]
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That looks like a nice little engine. In-line sixes are good candidates for turbos because the exhaust and intake routing is much more simple than wrapping it around a V8.
 

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There better than I thought. My mustang buddy always called em failblazers lol
 

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There's someone on here souping up a 4.2 (4200) can't remember the name of it. But he's really trying to get some power out of it but I don't think it's in his square.
Its @Vbb199 . He bought a trailblazer and I think he was going either the turbo or supercharger route. They are a pretty darn stout option, but not any cheaper than an LS in my area.
 

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Is this the engine you speak of?

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Yes that’s the same. It’s also the place I got the idea from. This guy has a 4200 in a few vehicles one of which is a 63 Studebaker. I just got my great grandfathers 63 stude back from an uncle so I was trying to get ideas for it.
 

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