1-ton leaf spring swap

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Hey everyone, I've got a 1987 Chevy V20 with a heavy-duty RPO. It has a Corporate 9.5" 14-bolt in the rear with 13" drums. The rear leaf springs are OE HD 8/1 56". They are getting tired.
Are 1-ton springs a direct-fit replacement? Both standard and heavy-duty 1-ton springs are actually cheaper than HD 3/4-ton and they seem to be the same size (true, lower arch, lower ride - don't really care). Center-pin on mine is 26" from the front. I plan on replacing the springs, u-bolts and shackles. The hangers look...serviceable.
Questions: Is this possible? Can I use new 3/4-ton U-bolts and the existing anchor plate (also serviceable), or do I need new 1-ton u-bolts and a new 1-ton anchor plate that goes below the axle? Anything else I'm missing?

Thanks!
 
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Unless I'm mistaken, the width of the spring packs on the 1 ton will be narrower to accommodate the dual rear wheel trucks. And you might want to double check the rear axle you have, I was under the impression that the heavt duty 3/4 trucks got the 14 full float with the big ring gear. Where as the semi float 9.5 was under the light duty 3/4.
 

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So, I may have been a little hasty in my OP. After looking closer at the truck and the RPO codes, it has a G51 code for the rear springs, which I guess is a different heavy duty variant. As such my rear springs have *8* leaves total, not 9. The widths listed on both 3/4 and 1-ton springs that I've seen is the same: 2.5"
And yes, you're right about the rear axle - it is in fact the light duty 9.5". My truck is an enigma of factory options that must have been hand-picked by the original owner for a specific reason. Silverado...with no AC...? Quad shocks, heavy springs, big brakes...light duty axle? Heavy duty radiator, factory oil cooler...TH400 trans....

Here's a few relevant RPOs:

C6P GVW RATING 8,600 LBS/3,900 KG
F51 SHOCK ABSORBERS FRT & RR, HD
F60 SPRING FRONT HEAVY DUTY
GQ1 AXLE STD RATIO
GT5 AXLE REAR 4.10 RATIO
G51 SPRING REAR HEAVY DUTY, VAR 2
JB7 BRAKE POWER, DISC/DRUM, 8,400 LBS
J55 BRAKE SYSTEM HEAVY DUTY
 

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Lol. Gotta love the days when you could order a vehicle the way you wanted it, instead of picking from 3 or 4 option packages. Completely eliminated the oddball stuff like that. I'll lay a tape measure across the springs on my truck when I get home, I've got a light 3/4 and a 1 ton frame sitting next to it, waiting to be swapped under. You could be correct on the springs, I keep hearing that there are some differences, to accommodate the duals, but haven't found out exactly what yet.
 

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You're correct on the spring width. Just measured both of mine, 2.5" on the nose.
 

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Call these guys - they are all over this. They also usually have the correct spring sets for your truck on the shelf:

Donovan Spring & Equipment Co Inc

Address: 6 Enterprise Rd, Londonderry, NH 03053

Phone: (603) 669-2250

And they are very reasonable when it comes to pricing. Recently - well not that recently, it was in March of 2013 - I bought a set of 9 stacks with auxiliary springs for my 86 (single wheel rear axle K30) from them.

That included everything except the hangers - like you, my hangers were still serviceable. I got shackles, shackle bolts, nuts & washers. Also included all the u-bolts & nuts/washers, upper spacers and anchor plates. This was all real quality, heavy duty commercial truck stuff.

I think I paid around $500 - maybe not even that. Below are some images of what was supplied (and no comments about my use of old encyclopedias & alloy rims to increase effective jack-stand height - heard it all before):

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And here are some shots of how these springs (and the associated hardware) look after 4 years. They have held up well:

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A good hint to extend the service life of the anchor plates and u-bolts:

Refer to the last photo and note the pooled water in the anchor plate - as indicated by the yellow arrow. Prior to installing new anchor plates and u-bolts/washes & nuts, drill a 1/4" drainage hole in each of the u-bolt cups. This will greatly decrease the rate at which the plates and bolts become wasted due to rust. I had to drill them after they were in place - it wasn't that hard but it is easier on the bench.
 
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Call these guys - they are all over this. They also usually have the correct spring sets for your truck on the shelf:

Donovan Spring & Equipment Co Inc

Address: 6 Enterprise Rd, Londonderry, NH 03053

Phone: (603) 669-2250

And they are very reasonable when it comes to pricing. Recently - well not that recently, it was in March of 2013 - I bought a set of 9 stacks with auxiliary springs for my 86 (single wheel rear axle K30) from them.

That included everything except the hangers - like you, my hangers were still serviceable. I got shackles, shackle bolts, nuts & washers. Also included all the u-bolts & nuts/washers, upper spacers and anchor plates. This was all real quality, heavy duty commercial truck stuff.

I think I paid around $500 - maybe not even that. Below are some images of what was supplied (and no comments about my use of old encyclopedias & alloy rims to increase effective jack-stand height - heard it all before):

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And here are some shots of how these springs (and the associated hardware) look after 4 years. They have held up well:

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A good hint to extend the service life of the anchor plates and u-bolts:

Refer to the last photo and note the pooled water in the anchor plate - as indicated by the yellow arrow. Prior to installing new anchor plates and u-bolts/washes & nuts, drill a 1/4" drainage hole in each of the u-bolt cups. This will greatly decrease the rate at which the plates and bolts become wasted due to rust. I had to drill them after they were in place - it wasn't that hard but it is easier on the bench.

Good info to know. If things go as planned, I'll be contacting them this summer after I get my frame blasted and painted.
 

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